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Re:An open-source flow battery kit by kleton on Tuesday August 13, 2024 @12:34PM (#41236997)
What is the Coulombic efficiency? A paper membrane probably leaks a lot, but a state of the art ion exchange membrane probably runs $1k/m2.
Re:An open-source flow battery kit by KennyBlanken on Tuesday August 13, 2024 @12:52PM (#41237145)
It's in the blog. The author mentions finding that matte inkjet paper worked fairly well.

There are much cheaper membranes; ESS for example uses a membrane that is used by lithium ion batteries (I think) and thus is commonly available and very inexpensive.

Re:An open-source flow battery kit by kragen on Tuesday August 13, 2024 @06:38PM (#41240589)
where in the blog?
Re:An open-source flow battery kit by jerrysievert on Tuesday August 13, 2024 @08:31PM (#41241347)
> where in the blog?

the blog is listed in the first paragraph of the linked article: https://chemisting.com/2024/03/15/an-open-source-diy-flow-ba...

Re:An open-source flow battery kit by kragen on Tuesday August 13, 2024 @08:34PM (#41241363)
if by 'the blog' you (or you and kennyblanken) mean https://chemisting.com/, which post do you mean? the post you link to in that blog doesn't say anything about coulombic efficiency or inkjet paper, and there are four years of posts in the blog
Re:An open-source flow battery kit by jerrysievert on Thursday August 15, 2024 @06:22PM (#41261095)
Re:An open-source flow battery kit by kirksmith on Wednesday August 14, 2024 @09:05AM (#41245641)
It's in the graph image, CE: 88.7%
Re:An open-source flow battery kit by danielfp248 on Wednesday August 14, 2024 @10:11AM (#41246297)
I am the author of the blog (chemisting.com), working on the project with Kirk and Josh.

The Coulomb efficiency of a device with a microporous, non-selective membrane depends fundamentally on how fast you charge/discharge it, as the device self-discharges while it runs. The faster you charge/discharge, the higher the CE will be.

In the case of the photopaper device, it will be in the 85-90% range when charging to high SOC values at 20mA/cm2. The big advantage is that microporous membranes are really cheap and they still work even if dendrites pierce them. I must me clear that photopaper is meant as a DIY demonstration, a commercial unit would never use that but a polyethylene microporous separator - such as Daramic - with these memrbanes the CE and EE tend to be higher.