I'm average looking, and I've dated and "been" with many women. I'm not even tall (I'm relatively short, in fact, shorter than some women I've been with), nor rich. I should have terrible self esteem, but I don't. That, plus being social and kind to others (and maybe a bit funny) really helps. A lot more than looks alone or money.

Posts like the OP are just incels pushing an agenda.

I'm attractive, I've had lots of partners. No it's still miserable.

You want one good, loyal one not a string of whores which is all attractiveness gets you in an environment like this.

Pretty sure someone was saying exactly this in a bar somewhere, a thousand years ago.

Yeah this kind of thing comes and goes in cycles. Computers have a multiplying effect but this isn't new. When you get to the point that you're picking up women in bars you're in the same phase of the cycle we're in now.

They most certainly were not.

There is no netflix and chill without birth control. We take birth control for granted now but the dynamics are so different if casual sex leads to children. It is an insane practice for both parties without birth control and isn't a thing.

We didn't have that figured out as a society and then we got both the internet and birth control.

Don Giovanni is supposed to be a myth about a guy sleeping with a 100 women because the idea was so crazy just a few generations ago.

Silphium used to exist which is a natural chemical birth control and there are of course less reliable methods.

Not that pregnancy really stops women anyway. I think the idea of contraception makes them a little more open to promiscuity but I personally know a number of married women who have had children with other men and these dating sites are full of single mothers.

Dating was different, but men were still saying this just like they do now. See my point?

Don’t know about Don Giovanni, men wanted to be him then and they still do now.

No, I didn't mean that. I meant being a normal man. Average = unnatractive to women in 2024. Just the way it is.