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Re:Virginia Mandates Paper Ballots, Tracking, Proof of Resid... by smitty1e on Friday August 09, 2024 @10:53PM (#41206975)
Well, gosh, it's just swell how you whisked vast amounts of genuine concern off to the cornfield.

Nevertheless, let's have hardcopy ballots cast on election day at properly funded and staffed polling places.

Why the simplest, most obvious and fair approach marks me some "right wing nut" is unclear.

However, unlike Tim Walz, I rogered up and actually deployed to Operation Enduring Freedom when called.

https://x.com/smitty_one_each/status/1821337514042347855?s=1...

Re:Virginia Mandates Paper Ballots, Tracking, Proof of Resid... by krapp on Friday August 09, 2024 @11:09PM (#41207026)
>However, unlike Tim Walz, I rogered up and actually deployed to Operation Enduring Freedom when called.

What a weird non-sequitur.

Re:Virginia Mandates Paper Ballots, Tracking, Proof of Resid... by smitty1e on Saturday August 10, 2024 @12:06AM (#41207249)
Perfectly coherent. The sane, patriotic, adult majority in the country have had about a bellyfull of the nonsense accusations thrown at us.

Speak sober truth and wisdom, and we'll do fine.

Re:Virginia Mandates Paper Ballots, Tracking, Proof of Resid... by eesmith on Saturday August 10, 2024 @01:47AM (#41207601)
Walz, like you, deployed to Operation Enduring Freedom when called.

https://taskandpurpose.com/news/swift-boat-walz/ says that he retired after 20 years of service with the Minnesota National Guard, re-upped after 9/11, then did "a year-long deployment as part of Operation Enduring Freedom in Turkey and Europe."

Re:Virginia Mandates Paper Ballots, Tracking, Proof of Resid... by smitty1e on Saturday August 10, 2024 @10:01AM (#41209585)
If there is any interest in ground truth concerning the situation: "Many of you are asking how Tim Walz was able to get away with lying about his service record for so long."

https://x.com/GrageDustin/status/1821908435316691277?s=19

Re:Virginia Mandates Paper Ballots, Tracking, Proof of Resid... by eesmith on Saturday August 10, 2024 @02:02PM (#41211167)
Walz deployed for a year for as part of Operation Enduring Freedom, which is something you claimed he did not do, in your flagged comment.

An X link is a lousy source. I don't care to wallow in that muck heap, and without an account I can't read more than the one posting you linked to.

What is wrong with the Task & Purpose description of the situation?

Re:Virginia Mandates Paper Ballots, Tracking, Proof of Resid... by smitty1e on Saturday August 10, 2024 @07:44PM (#41213030)
Walz bagged out.

I realize that the Narrative Alchemists think they can transform any lead into gold, but this is some tough material[1].

It's also a fair point that 20-year old news is less than fresh, but the Narrative Alchemists certainly don't want voters asking any hard questions about policy and direction.

So we get these lousy personality/biography reviews in lieu of serious discussion.

[1] https://hotair.com/ed-morrissey/2024/08/10/walz-former-super...

Re:Virginia Mandates Paper Ballots, Tracking, Proof of Resid... by eesmith on Sunday August 11, 2024 @12:16AM (#41213949)
Yes or no question for you.

Did Walz deploy for a year, in 2003-2004, as part of Operation Enduring Freedom?

Re:Virginia Mandates Paper Ballots, Tracking, Proof of Resid... by smitty1e on Sunday August 11, 2024 @01:24AM (#41214153)
No.

"Operation Enduring Freedom (OEF) was the official name used by the U.S. government for both the first stage (2001–2014) of the War in Afghanistan (2001–2021) and the larger-scale Global War on Terrorism." [0]

"Walz deployed in August 2003 in support of Operation Enduring Freedom. The Minnesota National Guard told CBS News the battalion supported security missions at various locations in Europe and Turkey. Walz was stationed at Vicenza, Italy, at the time and returned to Minnesota in April 2004." [1]

So, as someone who actually deployed to Afghanistan with 270 days of boots on the ground from Dec2010-Sep2011, you and all of the other folks defending Walz can take a long walk off a short pier.

Walz is a classic case of stolen valor. His non-command of integrity is typical of his party.

The knobs bombing my karma on this thread can get stuffed.

[0] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Enduring_Freedom

[1] https://www.cbsnews.com/news/tim-walz-military-record/

Re:Virginia Mandates Paper Ballots, Tracking, Proof of Resid... by rascul on Sunday August 11, 2024 @02:54AM (#41214430)
Operation Enduring Freedom wasn't strictly limited to Afghanistan. I was there too, before you were, and for longer. Wasn't my first deployment, either. I don't know or care about anything Waltz or whatever his name is.
Re:Virginia Mandates Paper Ballots, Tracking, Proof of Resid... by smitty1e on Sunday August 11, 2024 @07:06AM (#41215360)
So he spent less than a year, in Italy.
Re:Virginia Mandates Paper Ballots, Tracking, Proof of Resid... by rascul on Sunday August 11, 2024 @08:16AM (#41215651)
I don't see the problem.
Re:Virginia Mandates Paper Ballots, Tracking, Proof of Resid... by rascul on Sunday August 11, 2024 @08:43AM (#41215768)
It takes a lot of people around the world to support such a military operation.
Re:Virginia Mandates Paper Ballots, Tracking, Proof of Resid... by smitty1e on Sunday August 11, 2024 @09:58PM (#41220594)
Walz has now been denounced by his replacement, his chaplain, and his Commanding Officer.

You are perfectly within your rights to continue defending this abject piece of work.

Understand that veterans do both understand that life is messy and junk happens...but also that, when it's obvious that the person in question is a total piece of work like Walz, the knives come out.

Re:Virginia Mandates Paper Ballots, Tracking, Proof of Resid... by defrost on Sunday August 11, 2024 @01:34AM (#41214179)
I'm Australian and from a family with a loooong military association (going back at the very least to the Crimean War (1850s)).

With zero interests in the partisan political aspects of this, from a purely grunt on the ground, cog in the machine PoV, if it was true that he was "deployed in August 2003 in support of Operation Enduring Freedom" then he was part of that Operation even if that service was greasing wheels on vehicles in Italy.

These Operations sprawl larger than the pointy parts faced off across valleys, and those who serve generally STFU and do what they are told.

I get that he didn't have boots on the killing grounds, I have to assume that had he been deployed to a front line position then he would have gone as instructed.

Re:Virginia Mandates Paper Ballots, Tracking, Proof of Resid... by smitty1e on Sunday August 11, 2024 @07:05AM (#41215356)
=> "for a year"

And yes, I grasp that military efforts have some sprawl to them.

"...had he been deployed to a front line position then he would have gone as instructed."

It is clear that Walz had knowledge of the schedule, bagged out, and then let his actions be mis-characterized for years.

Even Walz's former boss is critical => https://redstate.com/bonchie/2024/08/09/bombshell-tim-walz-f...

Re:Virginia Mandates Paper Ballots, Tracking, Proof of Resid... by eesmith on Sunday August 11, 2024 @01:37AM (#41214186)
So you are telling me that my wife, in her two year-long non-combat deployments as part of the Reserve, did not actually serve as part of Operation Enduring Freedom?

Fuck off.

My grandpa got enough of that shit as a quartermaster in WWII Italy, when people considered him a lesser solider because he wasn't on the front lines.

Re:Virginia Mandates Paper Ballots, Tracking, Proof of Resid... by smitty1e on Sunday August 11, 2024 @07:07AM (#41215365)
Magnificent strawmanning.

I answered your "yes or no question" with specifics, and you ignored the specifics.

This places your arguments on Walz footing.