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Re:Google Loses DOJ Antitrust Suit Over Search by malfist on Monday August 05, 2024 @06:44PM (#41166301)
That's the power of monopoly, or in this case duopoly. You don't get to choose to not buy into the platform
Re:Google Loses DOJ Antitrust Suit Over Search by immibis on Monday August 05, 2024 @06:57PM (#41166385)
But you do. You get to choose to buy into the other platform, which is significantly more open. If for some reason you choose not to, then you obviously don't value openness very much.
Re:Google Loses DOJ Antitrust Suit Over Search by stubish on Monday August 05, 2024 @07:51PM (#41166653)
If only the world was so simple and one dimensional and we never needed to compromise. Lets have 5 phones, each representing the pinnacle of a single attribute I care about, none of them actually meeting my needs.
Re:Google Loses DOJ Antitrust Suit Over Search by redserk on Monday August 05, 2024 @07:47PM (#41166635)
Have you been paying attention to Google’s moves the last few years or are you just here to blast Apple?

They’re not the forever-open platform you’re purporting them to be.

Look at the increasing push for device attestation via SafetyNet or whatever it is called now.

Re:Google Loses DOJ Antitrust Suit Over Search by malfist on Tuesday August 06, 2024 @12:43AM (#41167822)
I use Google because they're more open, but I agree with you, I am under no pretense that it's open. Just more open than the alternative, barely.
Re:Google Loses DOJ Antitrust Suit Over Search by kaba0 on Monday August 05, 2024 @08:42PM (#41166890)
Yay, capitalism working as intended. The rational buyer can choose to get kicked in the head or in the groin! Vote with your money!

That’s why even Adam Smith himself said that it only works in well-defined markets! It’s the job of governments to define these, and phones are so essential to our lives that they should be thought of as roads, instead of as an average private company.

Re:Google Loses DOJ Antitrust Suit Over Search by dangus on Monday August 05, 2024 @09:06PM (#41166991)
In what sane healthy market is two choices enough?

Imagine saying that about everything else in your life. Don't want to buy a Ford car? You can buy a Toyota. There are no other car brands in the entire world. IHG, Hyatt, Choice Hotels, Best Western, Wyndham, Radisson, they don't exit.

Don't want to stay at the Hilton? You're in luck, you can go to the Mariott, that's it.

Don't want to buy a t-shirt at Target? Well, Walmart sells t-shirts, and nobody else sells any t-shirts.

This would be astoundingly ridiculous anywhere else but technoloy. Even credit card processing networks have four options (Visa, MasterCard, Discover, and American Express).

As an example of how this works in other industries, US antitrust regulators automatically decline any merger/acquisition US airlines that would put their marketshare above 20%. And that's after deregulation!

IMO any market that has less than ~3-5 viable purchase options for customers needs to have extensive government intervention to keep the market fair and innovative.