Re:Launch HN: Airhart Aeronautics (YC S22) – A modern person...
by the__alchemist on Monday August 05, 2024 @06:34PM
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Whoever is downvoting this: Stop. It's the key point here. Planes don't need to know their weight to produce a stall warning; AoA is a great metric, and GA planes not having an indicator or warning based on it is astonishing.
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Re:Launch HN: Airhart Aeronautics (YC S22) – A modern person...
by echoangle on Monday August 05, 2024 @06:40PM
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I thought the point was predicting a stall by knowing the approach speed will be so low that you will stall, not detecting a stall just before it happens
Re:Launch HN: Airhart Aeronautics (YC S22) – A modern person...
by Onavo on Monday August 05, 2024 @07:32PM
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You can't control the weather, if there's a micro burst during landing you are in trouble.
Re:Launch HN: Airhart Aeronautics (YC S22) – A modern person...
by FabHK on Tuesday August 06, 2024 @08:33AM
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GA planes have a stall warning horn (based on AoA). They just generally don't have a AoA indicator (though that might be a good idea indeed), relying on indicated airspeed instead, which (for given airplane mass) has a one-to-one [1] mapping to AoA in unaccelerated flight. That's why the concept of stall speed exists.
That is the case since, in unaccelerated flight, we need weight == lift, so
W := m g == L := 1/2 rho v^2 c_L S
with m = mass, g = earth gravitational acceleration, 1/2 rho v^2 = fluid dynamic pressure which is measured by the pitot tube and displayed as indicated airspeed (well, a function of it), c_L = the coefficient of lift, and S = wing area.Now, weight is constant (for given airplane mass, in unaccelerated flight), and so is the wing area. The coefficient of lift depends on the AoA, and dynamic pressure has a monotonic one-to-one relationship to IAS. Thus you have the relationship between IAS and AoA.
[1] Unless you get to "the back of the power curve" (the coefficient of lift increases with AoA, then decreases again, until it drops off in a stall). Let's not go there.