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Re:Google Loses DOJ Antitrust Suit Over Search by rbera on Monday August 05, 2024 @03:05PM (#41164334)
At the very least, I hope the Apple-Google ~~exclusivity~~ default agreement is revoked. I suppose it’ll take another year to figure out the actual remedies though.
Re:Google Loses DOJ Antitrust Suit Over Search by lvzw on Monday August 05, 2024 @03:08PM (#41164382)
I think a year for the remedies is optimistic - could drag on for a while. Also worth mentioning that it is not an exclusivity agreement - it is a default agreement.
Re:Google Loses DOJ Antitrust Suit Over Search by rbera on Monday August 05, 2024 @04:23PM (#41165210)
You’re right, my bad on the terminology. A year is definitely optimistic, I just hope that’s the first draft pending appeals. the longer it stretches on, the greater chance there is of directives being changed, lobbyists influencing politicians, etc.
Re:Google Loses DOJ Antitrust Suit Over Search by alt227 on Tuesday August 06, 2024 @03:09AM (#41168495)
> it is not an exclusivity agreement - it is a default agreement.

But it kind of is an exclusivity agreement. Have you ever tried to change the default search on an iPhone? There is only a very small list of curated searches you are allowed to pick from, and you cant add your own.

Re:Google Loses DOJ Antitrust Suit Over Search by changoplatanero on Monday August 05, 2024 @03:41PM (#41164723)
My idea is that they could auction off the right to be the default search engine separately in each state. So google could still win most of the auctions but if some other smaller provider wanted a chance they could concentrate their whole bet into a smaller market like Rhode Island or whatever.
Re:Google Loses DOJ Antitrust Suit Over Search by ipsum2 on Monday August 05, 2024 @03:14PM (#41164437)
Apple doesn't allow you to switch search engines on iPhone?
Re:Google Loses DOJ Antitrust Suit Over Search by linotype on Monday August 05, 2024 @03:16PM (#41164453)
They for sure do. Takes 30 seconds, just go to Settings then Safari.
Re:Google Loses DOJ Antitrust Suit Over Search by Tumblewood on Monday August 05, 2024 @03:17PM (#41164458)
they do allow you to switch - maybe it refers to google paying to be the default search engine?
Re:Google Loses DOJ Antitrust Suit Over Search by dwighttk on Monday August 05, 2024 @03:39PM (#41164708)
seems like these days most of the payment is 36% of ads in Google searches, but maybe there is also some money sent specifically for it to be the default.
Re:Google Loses DOJ Antitrust Suit Over Search by asadotzler on Monday August 05, 2024 @04:39PM (#41165377)
They get paid a share of ad revenue their users generate if they make Google the default in all of their web search entry points. These are not separate. The deal is 1) "make Google the default" and then 2) "there's a revenue share". No 1 then no 2.
Re:Google Loses DOJ Antitrust Suit Over Search by ein0p on Monday August 05, 2024 @03:21PM (#41164502)
On iOS it’s only from a pre approved list. Want to use a less censored search like Brave? Nope, unless you use something other than Safari.
Re:Google Loses DOJ Antitrust Suit Over Search by linotype on Monday August 05, 2024 @03:33PM (#41164616)
What browser allows you to specify a custom search engine? I just checked Chrome and it doesn’t on desktop.
Re:Google Loses DOJ Antitrust Suit Over Search by BeetleB on Monday August 05, 2024 @04:12PM (#41165085)
Firefox, for what - 20 years now?

You can make any search field on any web site your default search engine.

Re:Google Loses DOJ Antitrust Suit Over Search by spencerchubb on Monday August 05, 2024 @03:39PM (#41164703)
Re:Google Loses DOJ Antitrust Suit Over Search by efsavage on Monday August 05, 2024 @03:45PM (#41164791)
It's confusing, but if you add a "Site search" and then set it to your default, it becomes a "Search engine".
Re:Google Loses DOJ Antitrust Suit Over Search by linotype on Monday August 05, 2024 @05:55PM (#41165988)
Ah got it, thank you.
Re:Google Loses DOJ Antitrust Suit Over Search by leotravis10 on Monday August 05, 2024 @03:09PM (#41164386)
This could surely open the door for Apple Search as the silver lining.
Re:Google Loses DOJ Antitrust Suit Over Search by jncfhnb on Monday August 05, 2024 @03:43PM (#41164754)
The door was open the whole time
Re:Google Loses DOJ Antitrust Suit Over Search by VWWHFSfQ on Monday August 05, 2024 @03:13PM (#41164418)
Yes the silver lining is the other monopolist getting their share of the pie.
Re:Google Loses DOJ Antitrust Suit Over Search by JKCalhoun on Monday August 05, 2024 @03:33PM (#41164613)
> other monopolist

Ha ha. I know what you're saying though.

Re:Google Loses DOJ Antitrust Suit Over Search by largbae on Monday August 05, 2024 @03:14PM (#41164432)
Wouldn't this just hot swap one monopolist policy for another?
Re:Google Loses DOJ Antitrust Suit Over Search by kelnos on Monday August 05, 2024 @04:20PM (#41165165)
Pretty much. And just push Apple customers further into Apple's walled garden.