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Re:Australians blame wind, solar for high power bills as med... by nope1000 on Monday August 05, 2024 @08:52AM (#41160905)
> The only way renewables win any cost argument is when the numbers are fudged

Ironically, coal is only cheap because it does not price in the damage it causes via emissions (yet).

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Re:Australians blame wind, solar for high power bills as med... by 0xy on Tuesday August 06, 2024 @03:32AM (#41168610)
Does solar and wind price in the damage it causes via emissions from gas peaking plants (a fundamental coupling to any renewables)?

If not, why are you insisting that externalities be factored into one side of the equation but not your side? Is it because you're fudging the numbers?

Again, gas peaking plants are a REQUIREMENT for any serious renewables deployment. The alternative, batteries, are extremely expensive, not renewable, and require extensive upkeep (batteries have a shelf life).

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