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Re:'Charger hogs' are ruining the electric vehicle experience by linotype on Sunday August 04, 2024 @06:41PM (#41156790)
Have you talked to them about it? All in it is usually under $1k to get one installed and would be cheaper in the long run and better on the battery.
Re:'Charger hogs' are ruining the electric vehicle experience by AstroJetson on Sunday August 04, 2024 @07:34PM (#41157030)
> All in it is usually under $1k to get one installed.

Where I'm at (outside of Philly) $1K is the bottom end. Depending on the distance from the panel, access to the garage and the house service it can be lots more. I had mine done (panel on the other end of the house) and it was $2200

Re:'Charger hogs' are ruining the electric vehicle experience by cduzz on Sunday August 04, 2024 @09:34PM (#41157515)
It's common but rarely necessary for people to get the largest circuit they can imagine rather than evaluate cost / benefit clearly.

I have a 240v / 20a plug next to my drive way. It cost $300 for the electrician work and $150 for the EVSE. It uses inexpensive romex, didn't require me to beef up my house's 100a service, and 95% of the time recharges the car overnight. On the rare situations where I get home from a long drive late in the evening, with the car under 10%, and drive it the very next morning, the car will have not gotten back to the "normal" charge level, but it's still perfectly usable for 99% of driving requirements... And if I'm in a rare situation where I need to charge it more than I'd get from an overnight drive I can L3 charge it.

Sure, if you're putting 200 miles a day on the car consistently, or if you've got several EVs, or if you've got a huge price difference in your "time of use" power metering contract, having a big pipe between the car and the grid is helpful.

But just as often, spending more than $500 for an EVSE hookup is just not going to be a good way to spend money. Do it if it makes you feel more comfortable, but it's rarely necessary.

Re:'Charger hogs' are ruining the electric vehicle experience by stavros on Sunday August 04, 2024 @07:47PM (#41157089)
Can you plug an EV into a wall outlet? I imagine it will charge extremely slowly, but isn't there a way to do that?
Re:'Charger hogs' are ruining the electric vehicle experience by nullc on Sunday August 04, 2024 @08:02PM (#41157149)
You can, but it's quite slow to charge within the confines an an ordinary outlet.
Re:'Charger hogs' are ruining the electric vehicle experience by toomuchtodo on Sunday August 04, 2024 @06:54PM (#41156861)
I have primarily supercharged my 2018 Model S (100kw) over ~140k miles and only have 8% battery degradation.
Re:'Charger hogs' are ruining the electric vehicle experience by Nextgrid on Sunday August 04, 2024 @08:39PM (#41157289)
That assumes the battery degradation number calculation is 1) accurate and 2) isn't lying as to not discourage people without access to regular slow charging from buying their cars.
Re:'Charger hogs' are ruining the electric vehicle experience by toomuchtodo on Sunday August 04, 2024 @08:40PM (#41157298)
Provided by a third party, not Tesla.
Re:'Charger hogs' are ruining the electric vehicle experience by Nextgrid on Sunday August 04, 2024 @08:50PM (#41157338)
You mean a third-party is giving you that number? How do they obtain/calculate it? Do they just read a data parameter via the car's diagnostics port? If so the lying argument applies just as well.
Re:'Charger hogs' are ruining the electric vehicle experience by linotype on Sunday August 04, 2024 @09:16PM (#41157447)
And you might have less degradation if you had L2 charged it primarily.
Re:'Charger hogs' are ruining the electric vehicle experience by toomuchtodo on Sunday August 04, 2024 @10:31PM (#41157694)
The evidence does not support this when scoped to Tesla battery packs.

https://www.recurrentauto.com/research/impacts-of-fast-charg...