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Re:Marshmallow Test Fails to Replicate by sunjieming on Friday August 02, 2024 @03:00PM (#41141586)
Virtually every study I read about in AP Psych in HS failed to replicate - including this one. That whole class in hindsight was at best a waste of time and at worst provided bad info to make life decisions on
Re:Marshmallow Test Fails to Replicate by resource_waste on Friday August 02, 2024 @03:03PM (#41141614)
The reputations of these authors need to be dragged through the mud.

Daniel Kahneman's Wiki page doesnt make him look out to be a fraudster, despite him confidently mentioning studies that never replicated, despite him signing off on fake data from other fraudsters.

Re:Marshmallow Test Fails to Replicate by llamaimperative on Friday August 02, 2024 @03:31PM (#41141849)
That's not how science works. If you doubt the result, do your own experiment and publish it. The reputations will take care of themselves.

Obviously signing off on known-fake data is straight up lying, which must remain in a different category than simply doing a study that doesn't replicate.

Re:Marshmallow Test Fails to Replicate by pawelmurias on Saturday August 03, 2024 @09:22AM (#41146477)
A lot of psychology is vaguely science flavoured. You have them making a bunch of surveys and the making super broad claims based on this.
Re:Marshmallow Test Fails to Replicate by llamaimperative on Saturday August 03, 2024 @10:58AM (#41146928)
I think you’ll find that if you actually read the papers themselves, they don’t make nearly as broad of claims as they’re purported to be in media or the public consciousness.
Re:Marshmallow Test Fails to Replicate by sunjieming on Friday August 02, 2024 @03:08PM (#41141651)
Thinking Fast and Slow was blowing my mind until I started running into more and more studies that I knew didn't replicate. It took on a Freakonomics/Gladwell vibe after that
Re:Marshmallow Test Fails to Replicate by KerryJones on Friday August 02, 2024 @04:24PM (#41142296)
Apologies for ignorance, can you tell me more about Gladwell issues?
Re:Marshmallow Test Fails to Replicate by tucosan on Saturday August 03, 2024 @11:56AM (#41147325)
Gladwell is known for citing junk science and twisting reality by adding his own unfounded interpretations to research he's basing his theories on. There's a host of criticisms of his work. [Wikipedia](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malcolm_Gladwell#Reception) is a good starting point.
Re:Marshmallow Test Fails to Replicate by KerryJones on Monday August 05, 2024 @05:22PM (#41165740)
Great, thanks for this link, will dig in more.
Re:Marshmallow Test Fails to Replicate by P_I_Staker on Tuesday August 06, 2024 @08:01AM (#41170009)
This one is tough to know where to start. To hear him cover an issue near and dear to your heart, is infuriating. In fact, I think almost all of his podcasts ideas from the first season were terrible.

Mostly, he gets so into a story it's about the narrative itself. He sounds like a crazy child with a made up theory trying to force it to work.

It's hard to say from memory, but it was multiple episodes where he defended corporations and authority figures from legit criticisms, based on nonsense.

Just to be clear he doesn't literally say "and there, so I proved them innocent", but he might as well and these just weird one sided crusades (about David and defending the Goliath as misunderstood).

He's really not far from saying because people sometimes remember things poorly, Brian Williams definitely didn't lie (in a situation where many people lie).

He basically gave the auto industry a free pass, because it's challenging to prove an exact field issue.

Re:Marshmallow Test Fails to Replicate by bankcust08385 on Saturday August 03, 2024 @12:05AM (#41144612)
Psychology and psychiatry, like osteopathy and phrenology, are parts of the pseudoscience branches of philosophy, not science. This makes them more like religious cults reading tea leaves rather than able to perform controlled and replicable experiments, make clinical diagnoses based on evidence, or measure or examine the organ they're supposedly treating.