How Phones Are Making Parents the Anxious Generation

Re:How Phones Are Making Parents the Anxious Generation by dotancohen on Friday July 26, 2024 @04:04AM (#41076733)

There is a very strong correlation between two factors here, one of them being violent crime, that Western Europeans are very hesitant to acknowledge.

Sweden is well known for having high levels of this other factor right now, so your observation about violent crime is not surprising.

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Re:How Phones Are Making Parents the Anxious Generation by maccard on Friday July 26, 2024 @04:14AM (#41076775)

You’re talking about poverty, right? Because that’s what the driver in knife crime is in the UK.

Keep your dog whistle and racism out of here.

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Re:How Phones Are Making Parents the Anxious Generation by lupusreal on Friday July 26, 2024 @04:22AM (#41076823)

I've been poor, flat broke for years in fact, but I've never felt any compulsion to stab some stranger on the street. Can you explain the mechanism linking poverty to murderous impulse?

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Re:How Phones Are Making Parents the Anxious Generation by maccard on Friday July 26, 2024 @05:35AM (#41077146)

The other replies have an excellent example in Poland. To respond to your anecdote - that’s not how statistics works. It doesn’t mean that everyone under a certain criteria will immediately stab someone. You can have privileged women [0] perform these acts too.

[0] https://amp.theguardian.com/law/2017/sep/25/oxford-student-l...

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Re:How Phones Are Making Parents the Anxious Generation by lupusreal on Friday July 26, 2024 @09:33AM (#41078515)

The best you might have is a correlation between poverty and being homicidal, but you don't have any causal mechanism from poverty to homicidal because there isn't one.

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Re:How Phones Are Making Parents the Anxious Generation by revert_to_test on Friday July 26, 2024 @04:57AM (#41076973)

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7234816/

Also, private observation : Poland was relatively safe country during communist rule, although everyone was very poor. Then '90s happened, income disparity went through the roof, unemployment skyrocketed, and you could be greeted on the street by a group of young gentlemen asking you for your possessions, not to mention extreme gang violence and fights between hooligans.

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Re:How Phones Are Making Parents the Anxious Generation by CalRobert on Friday July 26, 2024 @07:14AM (#41077658)

How does housing availability compare to the Soviet era?

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Re:How Phones Are Making Parents the Anxious Generation by blackeyeblitzar on Friday July 26, 2024 @04:30AM (#41076858)

Assuming it is just poverty and not other factors as well, including cultural issues in some communities, feels naive to me. For example in the US, crime is not evenly distributed across races even if you adjust for poverty rates. There are other factors involved.

I also simply don’t understand what you’re implying from your comment - that being poor explains attempts at murder? I don’t believe that. I think it’s not having the right morals and culture, and those root causes should be discussed honestly even if it is uncomfortable.

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Re:How Phones Are Making Parents the Anxious Generation by maccard on Friday July 26, 2024 @05:39AM (#41077171)

I did not say that being poor explains attempts at murder, or anything of the sort. If you’re going to engage in that sort of discussion where you straw man, I’m not going to engage with it

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Re:How Phones Are Making Parents the Anxious Generation by lelanthran on Friday July 26, 2024 @06:51AM (#41077541)

> I did not say that being poor explains attempts at murder, or anything of the sort.

How else is a person supposed to interpret these words of yours? https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41076775

>>> You’re talking about poverty, right? Because that’s what the driver in knife crime is in the UK.

What is the other interpretation you had in mind? Why not simply say it?

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Re:How Phones Are Making Parents the Anxious Generation by zht on Friday July 26, 2024 @04:16AM (#41076781)

Could you elaborate?

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Re:How Phones Are Making Parents the Anxious Generation by CalRobert on Friday July 26, 2024 @05:09AM (#41077033)

They mean immigration

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Re:How Phones Are Making Parents the Anxious Generation by imdsm on Friday July 26, 2024 @05:18AM (#41077073)

I think we should be able to talk about it here. It shouldn't be a taboo subject where we fear pointing out correlation between immigration and poverty, and poverty and crime, links immigration and crime. Increase poverty and you increase crime. Increase immigration and you increase poverty. Therefore...?

So long as we're objective about this and leave tabloid mentality for Reddit and Twitter (...ok, X)

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Re:How Phones Are Making Parents the Anxious Generation by CalRobert on Friday July 26, 2024 @07:12AM (#41077649)

I agree, but it is a topic that tends to lead to unkind discourse, for reasons I’m not really qualified to elaborate on. I have no idea what the real situation, or possible answers, are.

Of course, I’m an immigrant, so…_shrug_

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Re:How Phones Are Making Parents the Anxious Generation by Propelloni on Friday July 26, 2024 @04:32AM (#41076870)

Around here (Western Europe) violent crimes trigger fear and outrage, they make the news circuit for days, and many a politician demands stricter laws. They are certainly acknowledged!

If you (or anybody, really) files a charge with the police you can bet good money on the fact that it enters the statistics. For all the faults of modern bureaucracy, being sloppy is not one of them. They may be ineffectual but the paperwork is in order!

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Re:How Phones Are Making Parents the Anxious Generation by Rinzler89 on Friday July 26, 2024 @04:08AM (#41076749)

Or in London too. You're safer in Prague or Budapest than in many parts of London.

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