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Re:Phish-Friendly Domain Registry ".top" Put on Notice by bell-cot on Wednesday July 24, 2024 @12:13PM (#41058552)
Daydream: Browsers and email programs are shipped with "Default Allow" lists, which include only the older & higher-quality TLD's. While users can add whatever TLD's they want to the lists, that default behavior destroys 99% of the value of new & crap-infested TLD's.
Re:Phish-Friendly Domain Registry ".top" Put on Notice by lainga on Wednesday July 24, 2024 @01:27PM (#41059487)
Ate some cheese before dreaming: Google and MSFT (as maintainers of the dominant mail clients) start charging TLDs under the table to go on GMail/Outlook's "Default Allow" list, except, of course, the ones that Google administers
Re:Phish-Friendly Domain Registry ".top" Put on Notice by bell-cot on Wednesday July 24, 2024 @02:11PM (#41059945)
Sadly, yes. And no "dream" disclaimer is needed.
Re:Phish-Friendly Domain Registry ".top" Put on Notice by sureIy on Wednesday July 24, 2024 @01:31PM (#41059532)
If you want to do that you can already knock yourself out with a custom DNS. Browsers must be neutral.

From the article:

> .top was the most common suffix in phishing websites over the past year, second only to domains ending in “.com.”

Does that mean you want to block .com domains?

Re:Phish-Friendly Domain Registry ".top" Put on Notice by dylan604 on Wednesday July 24, 2024 @01:59PM (#41059813)
# .top phishing websites / # .top websites total

vs

# .com phishing websites / # .com websites total

make educated decisions

Re:Phish-Friendly Domain Registry ".top" Put on Notice by throwaway4pp24 on Wednesday July 24, 2024 @02:06PM (#41059889)
Why does that matter at all? If I go and create a bunch of legitimate .top domains, is it suddenly better somehow? No, it's still the first of the list, and .com is still second.
Re:Phish-Friendly Domain Registry ".top" Put on Notice by dylan604 on Wednesday July 24, 2024 @02:14PM (#41059993)
yes, precisely. if you and a bazillion other people do it so that the percentage goes down. it's the fact that scammers are glomming onto a trendy TLD ruins the reputation of that TLD. If the percentage of scam is higher in one TLD over another, people will consider it a TLD used for scams. Not sure where the logic breaks down here

> No, it's still the first of the list, and .com is still second.

also, what do you mean .com is second? it states that .top was second to .com

Re:Phish-Friendly Domain Registry ".top" Put on Notice by nucleardog on Wednesday July 24, 2024 @09:27PM (#41063926)
> Why does that matter at all?

Because any action will have a negative impact on the legitimate sites and we want to maximize the effect while minimizing collateral damage.

It seems you’re saying if there’s a terrorist training camp with 10 terrorists and no bystanders in it, it would be unreasonable to drop a bomb on it unless we’re first willing to level the nearby city of a million people with 11 terrorists in it because it has more terrorists.

Which… no.

Re:Phish-Friendly Domain Registry ".top" Put on Notice by TJSomething on Wednesday July 24, 2024 @01:35PM (#41059569)
This made me sad when got a domain that used the TLD for a domain hack, then realized that I couldn't use it for emails.
Re:Phish-Friendly Domain Registry ".top" Put on Notice by ErikAugust on Wednesday July 24, 2024 @01:35PM (#41059572)
“ top was the most common suffix in phishing websites over the past year, second only to domains ending in “.com.”

So should we default not allow .com?

Re:Phish-Friendly Domain Registry ".top" Put on Notice by Volundr on Wednesday July 24, 2024 @01:45PM (#41059673)
Per the article 0.2% of .com domains are phishing vs 4.2% of .top. Or put another way, if you have a .top domain it's about 17 times as likely to be phishing than a .com domain.

.com has the most phishing domains by virtue of by far being the biggest, not because they have looser controls or are less reliable.

Re:Phish-Friendly Domain Registry ".top" Put on Notice by arp242 on Wednesday July 24, 2024 @02:35PM (#41060241)
Only if you select a random domain from a list of all .com or .top domains. No one does that of course. The chance a random .top (or .com) you encounter is a phishing domain isn't so easily calculated, depends on where you see it, etc.
Re:Phish-Friendly Domain Registry ".top" Put on Notice by BobbyJo on Wednesday July 24, 2024 @01:37PM (#41059590)
Quality is relative. A far larger percentage of .com domains are legitimate.
Re:Phish-Friendly Domain Registry ".top" Put on Notice by rvnx on Wednesday July 24, 2024 @01:39PM (#41059605)
Quora, Pinterest, Medium, The New York Times, Scribd, etc
Re:Phish-Friendly Domain Registry ".top" Put on Notice by shreddit on Wednesday July 24, 2024 @01:42PM (#41059639)
I think the blog universe would only benefit if medium ceased to exist.
Re:Phish-Friendly Domain Registry ".top" Put on Notice by ricardobayes on Wednesday July 24, 2024 @01:57PM (#41059794)
Got to love the mindset of the "old-school" cybersecurity folks.
Re:Phish-Friendly Domain Registry ".top" Put on Notice by bell-cot on Wednesday July 24, 2024 @02:41PM (#41060321)
MS-DOS - 42 years without a remote hole in the default install!
Re:Phish-Friendly Domain Registry ".top" Put on Notice by tristor on Wednesday July 24, 2024 @05:00PM (#41062051)
I already do this with NextDNS, I block all the "new" TLDs except for .io, .tv, and .ai because they're used for tech sites that are legitimate. I know that many organizations do the same, in fact it's mentioned in another comment.
Re:Phish-Friendly Domain Registry ".top" Put on Notice by sunshowers on Wednesday July 24, 2024 @09:12PM (#41063859)
All three of them are ccTLDs, so they aren't part of the "new" gTLD bucket (where .zip, .top, .xyz etc live).