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Re:Ask HN: What do you guys think of the current job market ... by darkwizard42 on Tuesday July 23, 2024 @02:58AM (#41043311)
The solution to a housing crisis is to limit immigration? Wouldn’t it be to build more dense housing (thereby spurring economic activity and lowering a primary expense of households)???
Re:Ask HN: What do you guys think of the current job market ... by elzbardico on Tuesday July 23, 2024 @03:01AM (#41043343)
Sorry for interrupting your religious moment. But in the real world you need capital for that. There’s absolutely no fucking reason to consider immigration a human right.
Re:Ask HN: What do you guys think of the current job market ... by mejutoco on Tuesday July 23, 2024 @04:46PM (#41050632)
The human rights declaration

https://www.un.org/en/about-us/universal-declaration-of-huma...

There are reasons, although one might disagree with them.

Re:Ask HN: What do you guys think of the current job market ... by nvy on Tuesday July 23, 2024 @05:28PM (#41051118)
Article 13 absolutely does not imply that unrestricted immigration is a human right. To do so would be to stomp on national sovereignty.

Article 13 concerns freedom of movement within one's own country, and the right of return thereto.

Re:Ask HN: What do you guys think of the current job market ... by mejutoco on Tuesday July 30, 2024 @06:58AM (#41107854)
> There’s absolutely no fucking reason to consider immigration a human right.

Many articles in that document provide hints/the spirit of reasons one _might_ consider immigration a human right. I think it is easy to entertain the idea and think of potential reasons for it.

A different matter is if that is indeed the case (your point). Still, I believe there are good reasons for it: the human rights declaration points at many of them, in many different articles.

For example, here is one reason (even for self-interested people, Milton Friedman-style): equality of opportunity might give an opportunity to somebody who is more capable (who knows who is the next Einstein). It will? not necessarily. But it might? definitely, it might. That is one reason.

I a not naive in regards to implementation. But there are reasons (like the above) for considering it.

Re:Ask HN: What do you guys think of the current job market ... by shiroiushi on Tuesday July 23, 2024 @03:00AM (#41043334)
>Wouldn’t it be to build more dense housing

No, because the NIMBYs don't want that, and if the local government has power over whether dense housing is built or not, the NIMBYs will be sure to get their local legislators to prevent it.

Re:Ask HN: What do you guys think of the current job market ... by nvy on Tuesday July 23, 2024 @03:08AM (#41043388)
Here in Canada we literally cannot build housing fast enough. The government is targeting half a million immigrants annually, and we recently set an all-time housing starts record of only about half that number.

Sometimes it actually is immigration that is causing problems.

Re:Ask HN: What do you guys think of the current job market ... by trog on Tuesday July 23, 2024 @06:52AM (#41044653)
Same in Australia. The government keeps making big noise about these 'big' housing plans and then the number is like 30,000 new houses, which is enough for a couple months. There is zero systemic approach to this problem. I feel like I am going insane.
Re:Ask HN: What do you guys think of the current job market ... by renewiltord on Tuesday July 23, 2024 @03:05AM (#41043367)
Amusingly, this is one of those cases where it’s obviously correct and people jump through all sorts of hoops to not accept it.