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Re:No One Expects Young Men to Do Anything and They Respond ... by tomcar288 on Monday July 22, 2024 @12:11PM (#41036063)
but this is the nature of all employed work: "submissive attitude toward the boss." Even if you're the CEO of a major corporation, you still have a submissive attitude towards shareholders.
Re:No One Expects Young Men to Do Anything and They Respond ... by jerojero on Monday July 22, 2024 @12:13PM (#41036098)
It's rare but some people work in co-ops. Though I guess you could say they are not doing "employed work"?

In any case, there's forms of labour out there that can be more empowering to the worker.

Re:No One Expects Young Men to Do Anything and They Respond ... by gruez on Monday July 22, 2024 @12:25PM (#41036230)
>It's rare but some people work in co-ops. Though I guess you could say they are not doing "employed work"?

Aren't you still beholden to the board (which theoretically is elected by you, but still)?

Re:No One Expects Young Men to Do Anything and They Respond ... by williamdclt on Monday July 22, 2024 @12:46PM (#41036505)
Subordination does not equate to submission, it's not really the same thing
Re:No One Expects Young Men to Do Anything and They Respond ... by igor47 on Monday July 22, 2024 @05:02PM (#41039774)
Fine nuance of exactly the type that's hard for folks to get behind today. If we could get people to consider nuanced positions, many of our problems would already be solved. Even in engineering orgs I've been a part of, navigating the challenges of seniority, hierarchy, and status has been really challenging.