10% of Cubans have left Cuba in the last year

Re:10% of Cubans have left Cuba in the last year by defrost on Saturday July 20, 2024 @11:47PM (#41022231)

    The FBI data also shows a 59% reduction in the U.S. property crime rate between 1993 and 2022, with big declines in the rates of burglary (-75%), larceny/theft (-54%) and motor vehicle theft (-53%).

    Using the BJS statistics, the declines in the violent and property crime rates are even steeper than those captured in the FBI data. Per BJS, the U.S. violent and property crime rates each fell 71% between 1993 and 2022.

Of course the real reason for comments such as that above are that:

    Americans tend to believe crime is up, even when official data shows it is down.

    In 23 of 27 Gallup surveys conducted since 1993, at least 60% of U.S. adults have said there is more crime nationally than there was the year before, despite the downward trend in crime rates during most of that period.

The only real uptick of note in recent years has been the murder rate in the US during the COVID years, staying home and feeling under threat led to an increase in US citizen on citizen crime - not immigration.

Of course those with a blinkered news bubble (Fox, et al) tend to believe the hyped up overstaing of every low occurrence incidence and clutch their pearls in response.

The data says otherwise.

https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2024/04/24/what-the-...

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Re:10% of Cubans have left Cuba in the last year by jwilber on Sunday July 21, 2024 @01:12AM (#41022537)

“The data says otherwise” in aggregate, up to the year 2022.

Posting aggregate stats just comes off iso a “gotcha” instead of a real discussion involving thought or context, both of which are needed in any discussion including data.

There’s many angles someone could take this.

You mentioned Fox News. They certainly don’t drone about crime in Little Rock — they complain about the “anarchist hellscape” of liberal cities (or whatever superlative they want to call it that hour). The worst of which? HN HQ San Francisco! (fwiw I love SF).

Unfortunately, in stark contrast to your stats, property crime has certainly gone up in San Francisco since 2012 [1]. SF is also a hot destination of migrant relocation busses [2], so is probably a city Fox mentions when it comes to migrant crime.

(Fwiw, Cubans often end up in liberal cities in conservative states, like Miami, Houston, Kentucky, not SF)[3].

Anyways, I have no horse in this race. I’m not really sure what my point is with this tangential response, other than to say your stats require context, and can just as easily factually be opposite to what you wrote, depending on that context.

1 https://www.economist.com/united-states/2019/02/16/property-...

2 https://www.nytimes.com/2024/07/20/us/abbott-texas-migrant-b...

3. https://www.washingtonpost.com/immigration/interactive/2024/...

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Re:10% of Cubans have left Cuba in the last year by bufferoverflow on Monday July 22, 2024 @12:07PM (#41036013)

> fwiw I love SF

How long can you leave your car parked outside before someone breaks the windows?

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Re:10% of Cubans have left Cuba in the last year by bufferoverflow on Sunday July 21, 2024 @02:20AM (#41022874)

You know what helps crime stats? Not prosecuting (some) criminals at all. Just dismiss the charges, and your stats magically get better.

Another thing you can do is reclassify felonies as misdemeanors.

Reminds you of anything?

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Re:10% of Cubans have left Cuba in the last year by rangestransform on Sunday July 21, 2024 @08:20AM (#41024579)

How has property crime trended post pandemic though?

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