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Re:Aro – Zig's new C compiler by WJW on Saturday July 20, 2024 @05:15PM (#41019999)
It doesn't relate to Zig at all, but Walter Bright is the creator of D and tremendously proud of it.
Re:Aro – Zig's new C compiler by nequo on Saturday July 20, 2024 @05:19PM (#41020033)
I know that he is but this is incredibly off-topic. Aro deserves the attention it is getting, without the discussion getting hijacked by another project.

D would deserve attention too, in a separate post, or here if it was explained how it relates to Aro.

Re:Aro – Zig's new C compiler by jraph on Saturday July 20, 2024 @06:21PM (#41020553)
Walter's comment could be read more charitably and could show his interest in Zig and similar choices that are made.

The last sentence, or, indeed, the whole comment, can be read like "We did this for D, and it works well. [go for it]".

I don't think D is casting any shadow on Zig. Both languages play in the same field, D is older but I feel like we hear about Zig way more these days.

His comment is likely to interest people interested in Zig or PLs in general.

The comment as is might lack some finesse but I don't think it deserves this level of aggressiveness.

Re:Aro – Zig's new C compiler by bithavoc on Saturday July 20, 2024 @06:53PM (#41020770)
I have profound respect for Walter and all his work, same for Andrei; but his comment was off-topic.
Re:Aro – Zig's new C compiler by pests on Saturday July 20, 2024 @07:45PM (#41021160)
His post does seem self-promotional I admit but Walter usually shows up in any threads about compilers and usually shares interesting comparisons and contrasts to how his language and compiler handled the issue.

For me, I appreciate the perspective and opinions of someone else in the industry with proven results. D is a major language, you can't deny that.

Maybe this post he should have went into a little more detail but I do not think he posted this with ill intent.

If anything I'm sure he would love to continue a dialog about the design decisions that led him to implement the same feature - and maybe this was his way of starting the conversation.

Given that he is a 15 year member of our community, and has earned 70k karma, we should give him the benefit of the doubt.

Re:Aro – Zig's new C compiler by WalterBright on Saturday July 20, 2024 @11:43PM (#41022212)
> he should have went into a little more detail

If there's interest, I can give more detail.

Re:Aro – Zig's new C compiler by fuzztester on Saturday July 20, 2024 @09:24PM (#41021635)
>I know that he is but this is incredibly off-topic.

no, it is not. in the fine tradition of hn, let me reply by saying, "that's like, just your opinion, man". which is not worth more than any other people's opinion on this site. maybe worth less.

e.g.:

>D would deserve attention too if ...

so now you are telling everyone what deserves attention?

then what have you done to deserve attention yourself (to your comments, that is)?

walter has done plenty. he created the D language, and still maintains it, along with others, like, you know, Andrei, for one. Google who that is.

Google about Walter to know what other stuff he has done before, like you know, the Zortech C++ compiler.

Re:Aro – Zig's new C compiler by nequo on Saturday July 20, 2024 @10:12PM (#41021856)
Let me just say, your comments have not been the most constructive I’ve read.
Re:Aro – Zig's new C compiler by fuzztester on Sunday July 21, 2024 @12:01AM (#41022282)
Sure, I will let you say it :)

Let me say that I think the same about this comment of yours upthread:

>>D would deserve attention too, in a separate post, or here if it was explained how it relates to Aro.

(still editing)

In case you cannot or don't want to google for some reason, here are the Wikipedia articles about Walter and Andrei, and important related topics (all on Wikipedia, which implies noteability) that I suggested you look up, above:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Walter_Bright

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zortech_C%2B%2B

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Empire_(1977_video_game)

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/D_(programming_language)

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andrei_Alexandrescu

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Modern_C%2B%2B_Design

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/C%2B%2B

Re:Aro – Zig's new C compiler by klyrs on Sunday July 21, 2024 @08:47AM (#41024702)
Sorry, but what does this have to do with Aro?
Re:Aro – Zig's new C compiler by fuzztester on Sunday July 21, 2024 @06:14PM (#41028718)
Sigh.

See here for one way to get it, i.e. someone else's comment on the topic:

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41026310

If that doesn't help, start reading from the start of this subthread that starts with Walter Bright's comment about D, and pay attention throughout, otherwise don't waste your time commenting.

If even that doesn't help, nothing will; sorry, I don't have the time to explain things more than that, for a trivial matter like this.

Re:Aro – Zig's new C compiler by klyrs on Monday July 22, 2024 @11:29AM (#41035573)
> sorry, I don't have the time to explain things more than that, for a trivial matter like this.

Au contraire! You're contributed more to this sideshow than anybody: context I was fully aware of when I asked my rhetorical question.

Oh, and you probably know this in the abstract, but your patronizing tone really isn't doing your case any favors here.

Re:Aro – Zig's new C compiler by fuzztester on Tuesday July 23, 2024 @07:00PM (#41051905)
>> sorry, I don't have the time to explain things more than that, for a trivial matter like this.

>Au contraire! You're contributed more to this sideshow than anybody: context I was fully aware of when I asked my rhetorical question.

>Au contraire!

Merde! Mon Dieu! Gesundheit! (Hey, Duo, you buggy bro! that's DE, not FR) :)

I can talk fancy French too, with the help of my French mistress, aka Google Translate(ss) :) :

ton discours fantaisiste ne me dérange pas, mon garçon

original in English, by me:

your fancy talk does not faze me, boy

https://translate.google.com/?sl=en&tl=fr&text=your%20fancy%...

>sideshow

if it's a sideshow, why did you participate in it? you are a serious guy, right?

me, I am a dumbass, and just having fun.

>context I was fully aware of when I asked my rhetorical question.

I don't believe it. you are trying to CYA.

but anyway, rhetorical questioners should expect to get any kind of answers, including unexpected ones.

see ya. ciao.

wow, those last two words of mine, they kind of rhyme.

I should take up a career as a poet, since it's already a vocation, after I've spent some of my millions taking a vacation.

signed,

- funster.ai

in Westminster, bye bye.

# everything has to be AI nowadays, otherwise people don't pay attention. that's the usual convention. it's a source of dissension.

Re:Aro – Zig's new C compiler by bpmooch on Sunday July 21, 2024 @12:48PM (#41026310)
He's right, what he's saying is just so obvious it's annoying it has to be said in reply to low effort posts like yours
Re:Aro – Zig's new C compiler by fuzztester on Sunday July 21, 2024 @06:18PM (#41028754)
thanks. you are one of the few people among the commenters who got what I was saying in this thread, I mean. I am sure tons of other sensible people here understood it but did not comment, because it was not worth their time to comment on something so obvious, as you said above, in reply to nequo above.