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Re:FCC votes unanimously to dramatically limit prison teleco... by monomyth on Friday July 19, 2024 @11:12AM (#41007323)
Retribution provides almost no societal benefit. Most of society doesn’t know or care about any individual crime. Rehabilitation of a single member however will benefit all of society, as you can’t predict all possible social interactions of a single person.
Re:FCC votes unanimously to dramatically limit prison teleco... by BoingBoomTschak on Friday July 19, 2024 @12:11PM (#41007955)
Social order, the people wronged want to know that the culprit suffered for it, otherwise said people will start to feel the judicial system is disconnected from justice itself.

I mean, why do you think Lex Talionis is that historically universal?

Re:FCC votes unanimously to dramatically limit prison teleco... by vidarh on Friday July 19, 2024 @02:25PM (#41009489)
For my part, I consider inflicting suffering to be fundamentally immoral, because the "moral" justification for retribution relies on the notion of free will, and there is no rational case for free will.
Re:FCC votes unanimously to dramatically limit prison teleco... by rustcleaner on Friday July 19, 2024 @05:51PM (#41011759)
That is religion. The belief in an eye for an eye to appease Ahura Mazda™, lest our blessings of good fortune run dry next glowing season!
Re:FCC votes unanimously to dramatically limit prison teleco... by BoingBoomTschak on Saturday July 20, 2024 @11:37AM (#41017200)
Come on, religion spawns from the culture it's created in, not the opposite.
Re:FCC votes unanimously to dramatically limit prison teleco... by ClumsyPilot on Friday July 19, 2024 @06:30PM (#41012094)
> Social order

The caste system and human sacrifice also provide social order. Medieval system of peasants and lords and kings provided social order. Spanish inquisition and torture provide social order.