Re:Multiple airlines disrupted due to Microsoft Azure outage
by tanelpoder on Friday July 19, 2024 @02:56AM
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But if the Azure outage is due to Windows machines crashing because of the currently ongoing CrowdStrike crash/reboot loop issue, then such servers might end up being down in all regions. Looks like there might be some advanced lessons to be learned about blast radius here...
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Re:Multiple airlines disrupted due to Microsoft Azure outage
by switch007 on Friday July 19, 2024 @03:11AM
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Azure VM host machines are running CrowdStrike...??
Re:Multiple airlines disrupted due to Microsoft Azure outage
by bugbuddy on Friday July 19, 2024 @03:42AM
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Maybe because Windows Defender Advanced Threat Protection is an enormous resource hog that scans every byte of memory and storage accessed by the Hypervisor and performs a quadratic time computation on the data? I am just guessing because my “fastest” Windows laptop CPU money could buy feels like a hot smelting furnace and a sloth at the same time when I use VMWare Workstation. What the &$@* is it scanning the VMWare guests for?
Re:Multiple airlines disrupted due to Microsoft Azure outage
by pjc50 on Friday July 19, 2024 @04:27AM
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Oh, Crowdstrike is also a massive resource hog.
Re:Multiple airlines disrupted due to Microsoft Azure outage
by tanelpoder on Friday July 19, 2024 @04:01AM
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Probably not, but maybe they rely on some Active Directory server that is running it?
Re:Multiple airlines disrupted due to Microsoft Azure outage
by jaggederest on Friday July 19, 2024 @04:58AM
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VM storage is probably on Windows Server, plus AD. I'd bet out of band management is all in the impact zone too. Might be back to someone pushing physical switches and hooking up a KVM.
Re:Multiple airlines disrupted due to Microsoft Azure outage
by mnw21cam on Friday July 19, 2024 @05:14AM
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And this explains why the (Linux) HPC that I'm using is having so many troubles today, and keeps complaining that I don't exist.
Re:Multiple airlines disrupted due to Microsoft Azure outage
by pjc50 on Friday July 19, 2024 @04:28AM
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IF they're running windows, they'll be running it.
Re:Multiple airlines disrupted due to Microsoft Azure outage
by mgrund on Friday July 19, 2024 @04:57AM
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More likely crash looping of so many VMs overloading some system with insufficient back pressure, possibly combined with unfortunate cluster management scheduler behavior at this scale of crash looping (e.g. too eager to retry scheduling instances, maybe even on new hosts which causes more infrastructure load).
Re:Multiple airlines disrupted due to Microsoft Azure outage
by politelemon on Friday July 19, 2024 @03:15AM
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It's more coincidental than likely, since these are managed services that were down, while the crowdstrike issue is closer to company deployments.
But never say impossible, it's best to wait and see what the actual problem is rather than throwing shade so early.
Re:Multiple airlines disrupted due to Microsoft Azure outage
by politelemon on Friday July 19, 2024 @07:53AM
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Update. Throw shade. They've confirmed it. I was wrong.