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Re:Americans' confidence in higher education has taken a nos... by p1esk on Wednesday July 17, 2024 @11:13PM (#40992168)
And yet acceptance rates at top schools have been consistently going down.
Re:Americans' confidence in higher education has taken a nos... by shiroiushi on Thursday July 18, 2024 @12:12AM (#40992450)
More students are applying, probably. 50 years ago, you had to go to some trouble to apply to a college; you couldn't just do it online. Also, 50 years ago, they didn't have hordes of international students applying from around the world, but today that's common in American universities.
Re:Americans' confidence in higher education has taken a nos... by hilbert42 on Thursday July 18, 2024 @08:27AM (#40994954)
"...but today that's common in American universities."

That's correct and to some extent it's had a deleterious effect on education. The primary problem however is that money—the finances of education—has become as important or even more so than education itself. 50 years ago education had more intrinsic worth that it does today. Well, anyway, it did with those who controlled the politics and thus the pursestrings.

Re:Americans' confidence in higher education has taken a nos... by dghlsakjg on Wednesday July 17, 2024 @11:20PM (#40992202)
I would be willing to bet that applications per student are way up on a long term timescale.

It’s the same thing as the job application problem. When it is as easy as having a form autofilled and hitting submit (even if there is a moderate fee), you throw shit at the wall to see what sticks.

Re:Americans' confidence in higher education has taken a nos... by geodel on Wednesday July 17, 2024 @11:31PM (#40992253)
It is like saying people are eating less at restaurants in last few years yet Michelin star restaurants have 3 months waitlist.

Obviously top rated stuff has high demand and low supply. Further if students are finding lower rank universities less worth the money, many of them would try even harder to get in higher ranked ones.

Re:Americans' confidence in higher education has taken a nos... by p1esk on Thursday July 18, 2024 @12:12AM (#40992447)
Is confidence in good schools rising?
Re:Americans' confidence in higher education has taken a nos... by geodel on Thursday July 18, 2024 @10:07AM (#40995708)
Your comment above indicate that.
Re:Americans' confidence in higher education has taken a nos... by p1esk on Thursday July 18, 2024 @11:19AM (#40996388)
Not necessarily. As others said, could be caused by increasing number of applications per applicant, or foreign students. Or maybe increasingly important reasons to graduate from top school that have nothing to do with actual education. If in 5 years AI can do most jobs better than humans, how can a middle class young adult advance up the social ladder?
Re:Americans' confidence in higher education has taken a nos... by guccigav on Wednesday July 17, 2024 @11:34PM (#40992266)
Also, the college prep and tutoring industry has been ballooning in the US. Historically, Chinese companies dominated this market in terms of consumer base, but we'll probably see a continuation of this trend in the US too as universities become more selective and it's a self-fulfilling prophecy where the more selective you become more students/parents will consider you as more "elite".