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Re:Can Universal Basic Income Transform Society? by hellojesus on Wednesday July 17, 2024 @01:14PM (#40988065)
> Do you think those people should just die in the street?

I expect for this to be an available path but an unlikely one. People tend to give to those in need. Sometimes that comes with conditions: no drugs, get a job, etc. Historically we used religious institutions for this, which is largely why they are tax exempt.

Breaking poverty tends to require a shift in behavior. UBI by definition removes the requirement that someone makes EV+ decisions and lifestyle changes.

Re:Can Universal Basic Income Transform Society? by tempfile on Thursday July 18, 2024 @04:01AM (#40993489)
> I expect this to be... an unlikely one

On what basis? Do you know how many people die in poverty in countries with no social safety net?

Re:Can Universal Basic Income Transform Society? by hellojesus on Thursday July 18, 2024 @09:37AM (#40995464)
It is irrelevant to the US federal government. Nowhere does S1A8 authorize Congress to act on starvation.
Re:Can Universal Basic Income Transform Society? by tempfile on Friday July 19, 2024 @10:33AM (#41006959)
I don't think this comment makes sense. I'm not asking about your reading of the constitution. I'm trying to get you to admit that you don't care whether people die in poverty, and that you have no reason to think a small number of people would die if state assistance was removed. The moral claim (and your original argument was a moral claim) has nothing to do with whatever S1A8 is or does.