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Re:Dear Reddit, Hacker News... by tptacek on Thursday December 25, 2008 @01:27PM (#409682)
I don't understand why I'm meant to care about a troll promising to stop trolling.
Re:Dear Reddit, Hacker News... by nailer on Thursday December 25, 2008 @03:29PM (#409746)
A troll is someone who's just trying to get a reaction, but hasn't actually contributed anything worthwhile.

Zed has obviously contributed a lot, and was being trolled by the Ruby community (know what 'fuzed' stands for?) before he started ZSFA.

Re:Dear Reddit, Hacker News... by tptacek on Friday December 26, 2008 @03:56PM (#410400)
When you write long-form blog posts that are about little more than the list of Ruby people that have offended you --- often writing about them for the Nth time --- I stop caring what your contributions are, and start being annoyed. Whatever Zed's "contributions" are, there are 100 Ruby developers who have contributed more, but don't demand that I attend to their neuroses.
Re:Dear Reddit, Hacker News... by nailer on Friday December 26, 2008 @04:14PM (#410413)
> Whatever Zed's "contributions" are, there are 100 Ruby developers who have contributed more

No, really, there aren't. Go read about Zed.

Re:Dear Reddit, Hacker News... by tptacek on Friday December 26, 2008 @04:40PM (#410436)
You're joking, right? Name 2 developers each for the Rubinius, JRuby, MRI/YARV, and IronRuby projects, 2 developers from Passenger, anyone working on the Nimble Methods blog, anyone working on EventMachine, any 2 developers working on Merb, any non-37s developer working on ActiveRecord, anyone working on Ruby-AST projects, anyone working on GitHub and anyone working on Ruby git bindings --- there, I'm at 20, and I haven't even gotten to _why yet.

Don't bullshit me. The fact that Zed talks the talk doesn't automatically mean he's walking the walk. He wrote a webserver. There are 100 Ruby developers who have written more --- and more important --- code than Zed, and I haven't heard about any of the crank calls they've gotten.

Re:Dear Reddit, Hacker News... by nailer on Saturday December 27, 2008 @04:32AM (#410936)
Let me know when you get to one hundred. In the meantime, writing the Ruby webserver is a larger contribution than say, git bindings.
Re:Dear Reddit, Hacker News... by subbu on Saturday December 27, 2008 @12:25PM (#411142)
What's even more of importance about that web server(mongrel) was that there was no good web server that could reliably run Ruby/Rails apps at that time.
Re:Dear Reddit, Hacker News... by davidw on Saturday December 27, 2008 @05:30PM (#411449)
mod_fcgid (note the 'd' at the end) actually worked, and works pretty well. I only just now migrated away from it in favor of Passenger, which is easier to configure and has most of the same advantages, as well as being more actively developed.
Re:Dear Reddit, Hacker News... by tptacek on Saturday December 27, 2008 @09:23PM (#411622)
You mean besides lighttpd and FastCGI?
Re:Dear Reddit, Hacker News... by unalone on Thursday December 25, 2008 @10:02PM (#409912)
Yeah, and that's an important distinction, especially in cases like this.

You can be pissed off and rude and not be a troll. If you do, the people calling you out as a troll are often trolling themselves, albeit more benignly.

Re:Dear Reddit, Hacker News... by mattmaroon on Thursday December 25, 2008 @11:18PM (#409946)
I've stopped clicking the links to his posts because they're always things I can't determine why I should care about. Most of his posts that I find from here could have been written by a non-programmer, and if they were the people here would complain they were off-topic.

It's very Valleywagish actually.

Re:Dear Reddit, Hacker News... by tptacek on Friday December 26, 2008 @03:57PM (#410402)
I follow HN in NetNewsWire and can't always tell that a link goes to Zed; if I could tell, I'd ignore them.