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Re:Boeing to plead guilty to criminal fraud charge stemming ... by roenxi on Monday July 08, 2024 @05:25AM (#40903915)
And the level of risk the CEO/C Suite would have to take on would be insane. Who would want to be in charge of an aerospace company if there was a real risk that you'd get charged with murder if you don't have an almost psychic insight into the technical decisions of your company?

There'd be a filtering effect where the best and brightest avoid industries where we need them to be. That standard would likely reduce the quality of the leadership and bias it further towards people who are delusional about safety.

Re:Boeing to plead guilty to criminal fraud charge stemming ... by tossandthrow on Monday July 08, 2024 @05:40AM (#40903980)
Why, again, are the c suite being paid as much as they do if not to take on this risk?
Re:Boeing to plead guilty to criminal fraud charge stemming ... by roenxi on Monday July 08, 2024 @05:45AM (#40904003)
To fullfill their role? Management and making decisions? Taking on personal risk has never been a part of the C suite beyond the tradition of giving them shares as part of their compensation.

Shareholders use positive incentives, not negative ones. Because positive incentives generally lead to better results in this case.

Re:Boeing to plead guilty to criminal fraud charge stemming ... by tossandthrow on Monday July 08, 2024 @06:15AM (#40904114)
Seems like the US has some really weird rules in this regard then. For the C-suite to take on personal risk is literally a part of the role where I live. the central business registry register those holding these roles for that exact reason.
Re:Boeing to plead guilty to criminal fraud charge stemming ... by TheOtherHobbes on Monday July 08, 2024 @09:10AM (#40905103)
In this case they've clearly done the opposite.

You seem to be arguing that the C-suite can do anything it wants to. As long as it does it in an official capacity, it can cause whatever harm it wants.

That seems like a very strange argument. Do you believe corporations and corporate officers have no moral obligation to act ethically?

Because if so, I'm finding it hard to understand the difference between a corporation and a crime family.

Re:Boeing to plead guilty to criminal fraud charge stemming ... by actionfromafar on Monday July 08, 2024 @05:48AM (#40904015)
We need them energetic and vigorous! /s
Re:Boeing to plead guilty to criminal fraud charge stemming ... by soco on Monday July 08, 2024 @06:26AM (#40904166)
If what Boeing management has to offer means "quality" then I'll gladly take less of it, thank you. Same with VW and all those managers which went away unscathed enjoying their golden parachutes, for basically leading schemes for killing people.
Re:Boeing to plead guilty to criminal fraud charge stemming ... by sgarland on Monday July 08, 2024 @08:46AM (#40904925)
Gee, maybe we’d get people who are knowledgeable and care about engineering rigor, instead of MBAs whose sole goal is to make the share price go up.
Re:Boeing to plead guilty to criminal fraud charge stemming ... by perilunar on Monday July 08, 2024 @09:13AM (#40905129)
Sounds good to me. We'd end up with aerospace companies run by engineers who understand the technical decisions in detail, instead of MBAs and accountants.
Re:Boeing to plead guilty to criminal fraud charge stemming ... by maxsilver on Monday July 08, 2024 @09:24AM (#40905202)
> Who would want to be in charge of an aerospace company if there was a real risk that you'd get charged with murder if you don't have an almost psychic insight into the technical decisions of your company?

You say this like it's crazy, but we literally already do this with Doctors and Surgeons, it's not as tricky as you make it sound.

There's no valid reason that CEO/C-Suite folks get to forever escape any responsibility and accountability.

Re:Boeing to plead guilty to criminal fraud charge stemming ... by Nuzzerino on Monday July 08, 2024 @09:46AM (#40905401)
> it's not as tricky as you make it sound.

Citation needed + dubious analogy

Re:Boeing to plead guilty to criminal fraud charge stemming ... by TylerE on Monday July 08, 2024 @10:47AM (#40905917)
Will that make the best and brightest avoid it, or the worst, cheatingest, and laziest?