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Re:Talent Search versus Talent Development (2019) [pdf] by catgary on Sunday July 07, 2024 @01:11PM (#40898915)
I generally think math competitions do more harm than good for math outreach, especially if only 60(!!) students for a country the size of the US are being given any actual development after the initial tests.
Re:Talent Search versus Talent Development (2019) [pdf] by joe_the_user on Sunday July 07, 2024 @03:57PM (#40900019)
I took part in math competitions as part of a math club in High School during the 70s. It was fun, made me think and was a bit of a social outlet. I don't think any one test was that important - we took a bunch of standard and experimental national tests and monthly meetups had their own problems.

All that said, my impression is current math clubs and competitions have been taken over by kids just wanting credit for college rather than the kids of my era, who were there 'cause they actually enjoyed math.

If the only purpose you can see for math competitions is find a few very talented kids, yeah, well then they would qualify as counter-productive.

Re:Talent Search versus Talent Development (2019) [pdf] by fn-mote on Sunday July 07, 2024 @08:10PM (#40901556)
> my impression is current math clubs and competitions have been taken over by kids just wanting credit for college

I work directly with students in this field and my experience is that most are involved for the interest, challenge, or social aspect.

If you are involved with “pay to play” programs like AoPS, you probably see more resume-grooming.

Nobody I know would continue to donate their time if they perceived it was primarily fluff.

Re:Talent Search versus Talent Development (2019) [pdf] by joe_the_user on Sunday July 07, 2024 @08:29PM (#40901627)
Good Hear!
Re:Talent Search versus Talent Development (2019) [pdf] by Animats on Sunday July 07, 2024 @04:31PM (#40900237)
Outside the few hundred top mathematicians, how many advance the field much?
Re:Talent Search versus Talent Development (2019) [pdf] by contravariant on Sunday July 07, 2024 @07:21PM (#40901301)
Depends what you mean by advance. If nobody but those few hundred mathematicians was even aware of mathematics then what would be the point?
Re:Talent Search versus Talent Development (2019) [pdf] by downrightmike on Sunday July 07, 2024 @07:03PM (#40901237)
Every now and again, a tardy student writes down an impossible to solve problem and solves it because he thought it was just homework.
Re:Talent Search versus Talent Development (2019) [pdf] by historyforsale on Monday July 08, 2024 @01:34PM (#40907416)
> Every now and again

As far as I can tell, this has only happened once, in 1939 [1].

[1]: https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/the-unsolvable-math-proble...