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Re:"AI", students, and epistemic crisis by Kiro on Sunday July 07, 2024 @06:50AM (#40896615)
Am I the only one who almost never experience any hallucinations when talking to ChatGPT? I have to really push it into a corner with trick questions and conflicting instructions about obscure topics in order to trigger hallucinations.

That it would just come up with random false facts about something as common and "basic" as the history of the Greek language sounds like a made-up issue.

Re:"AI", students, and epistemic crisis by nebulous1 on Sunday July 07, 2024 @06:53AM (#40896628)
Well, I can't say that you're the only one, but I can say that I don't even interact with it that frequently and I've had numerous instances of it giving me false information. Enough times that I'm surprised to see you say otherwise.
Re:"AI", students, and epistemic crisis by watwut on Sunday July 07, 2024 @07:30AM (#40896833)
I don't need corner. I asked him for valid IISExpress config file.

Chatbots are great systetising in areas where there is a strong open source like culture - a lot of people writing tutorials and on stack overflow. The moment you move into area that is not popular to write about, they start making stuff up.

And it sux massively. I would much rather seen "I don't know" then what ChatGPT produces currently.

Re:"AI", students, and epistemic crisis by allsummer on Sunday July 07, 2024 @08:31AM (#40897164)
Start small, like asking him to review your grammar.
Re:"AI", students, and epistemic crisis by cheschire on Sunday July 07, 2024 @07:01AM (#40896672)
I know it feels like 4o has been out forever but go back to the 3.5 model without internet access for a while, which is all that a lot of students can afford.

It’s kind of terrible.

But yeah ever since I could start adding “and include an explanation with citations” to my prompts I’ve not had an issue with hallucinations more than once or twice.

Re:"AI", students, and epistemic crisis by hayley-patton on Sunday July 07, 2024 @08:12AM (#40897055)
Does it give real citations? I've heard it gives bogus citations, though can't remember how well it went last time.
Re:"AI", students, and epistemic crisis by cheschire on Sunday July 07, 2024 @08:19AM (#40897091)
I haven’t had any issues, but I’m not using it to do “real” research so the veracity of sources has been less of an issue for me. I typically ask, then spot check sources.

If I’m using it to make purchase decisions or scheduling my day then I use it purely to find me source pages.

It’s really terrible at calculating the cost of services.

Re:"AI", students, and epistemic crisis by drivingmenuts on Sunday July 07, 2024 @07:38AM (#40896881)
Hallucinations come in all sizes. I wouldn't worry about the big hallucinations - those are easy to spot. I worry about the small, incremental hallucinations - the ones you don't notice until several have happened. It might not be possible to even recognize that sort of thing yourself, if you've been effectively gaslighted by AI.

Since there's no actual knowledge on the part of the AI, it doesn't know that it's doing it, so it's not malicious (the designers are a separate question). But it is still entirely possible, and even somewhat likely.