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Re:Supreme Court rules ex-presidents have immunity for offic... by alistairSH on Monday July 01, 2024 @01:48PM (#40848277)
This is like qualified immunity (usually for police), but applied to POTUS.

You want public servants to be able to do their jobs without fear of time-wasting litigation.

But, if you grant blanket immunity, the poilice (or POTUS) are free to do whatever they want.

We're quite clearly tilted way over into "do what they want" territory.

Re:Supreme Court rules ex-presidents have immunity for offic... by Clubber on Monday July 01, 2024 @02:48PM (#40849031)
I believe qualified immunity only protects from direct civil litigation but not criminal.
Re:Supreme Court rules ex-presidents have immunity for offic... by alistairSH on Monday July 01, 2024 @02:55PM (#40849134)
Yep, it's a rough analogy, not a perfect match.

And, given the state of policing and justice in the US, civil litigation is often the only way to get any relief for over-zealous policing. And QI makes that bar even higher than it should be.

Re:Supreme Court rules ex-presidents have immunity for offic... by Red_Leaves_Flyy on Monday July 01, 2024 @06:39PM (#40851599)
Find me a DA that will routinely prosecute crooked cops. They don’t exist because the gangs close ranks and protest by refusing to their job. When other state employees protest they get beaten and forced back to work.

Interesting.

Re:Supreme Court rules ex-presidents have immunity for offic... by Waterluvian on Monday July 01, 2024 @02:23PM (#40848711)
I think that’s the argument, yes. I think it’s facially a bad one when you consider all the examples of functional police that lack QI. Makes me skeptical that it’s a good faith argument.
Re:Supreme Court rules ex-presidents have immunity for offic... by alistairSH on Monday July 01, 2024 @02:43PM (#40848965)
100% agree.

AFAIK, QI no longer exists in England (not sure about Scotland or N.I.). And Germany never had it (civil cases for damages would be against the state, not the state representative).

Re:Supreme Court rules ex-presidents have immunity for offic... by ffgjgf1 on Monday July 01, 2024 @03:42PM (#40849768)
> civil cases for damages would be against the state, not the state representative

Isn’t that the same as QI?

Re:Supreme Court rules ex-presidents have immunity for offic... by sanderjd on Monday July 01, 2024 @08:21PM (#40852311)
Qualified immunity is already really bad though...
Re:Supreme Court rules ex-presidents have immunity for offic... by lannisterstark on Tuesday July 02, 2024 @12:42AM (#40853636)
That's not a defense though - because of qualified immunity, cops get to be rampant authoritarians with 0 recourse for most people.