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Re:Winpopup (2001) by xanderlewis on Thursday June 27, 2024 @08:29AM (#40809742)
Just looking at these screenshots makes me wish computers were still so (relatively) simple. I’m no Windows fan, but it’s so soothingly retro.
Re:Winpopup (2001) by thawkth on Thursday June 27, 2024 @09:51AM (#40810536)
I really miss the UI/UX of the 90s and I sincerely think that while nostalgia plays a part, they have real merit. We don't really think about what we've lost in the quest for "attractive" and "simple" UIs

In those screenshots, what's clickable is obvious. What things can be interacted with is hinted at. Every element has a generous amount of space to be selected/clicked.

I really do believe that modern UIs generally increase cognitive load and are less enjoyable to use. Things are less discoverable than they used to be.

It amazes me how much early interfaces got right, and saddens me how much we've forgotten.

Re:Winpopup (2001) by xanderlewis on Thursday June 27, 2024 @04:53PM (#40814975)
Modern UIs are also almost impossible for elderly people to use, precisely because the common sense notions of ‘button’ and ‘scrollbar’ and such are frowned upon and have been all but banished. Ironically, iOS is full of obscure hidden controls and options despite the Macintosh being one of the greatest examples of intuitive UI design ever — which might actually be even harder to appreciate in hindsight given that it set the standard in so many ways.
Re:Winpopup (2001) by Levitating on Thursday June 27, 2024 @11:10AM (#40811403)
I am sure you like the SerenityOS interface
Re:Winpopup (2001) by jsiepkes on Thursday June 27, 2024 @09:16AM (#40810154)
Don't get too sentimental. Windows 98 didn't really have any real memory protection. Meaning every process could modify all kinds of memory they shouldn't (kernel, other proceses, etc.). Hence kernel panics (aka "blue screens") were quite common. They usually happend multiple times a week. Auto-save also wasn't really a thing. I still have a "CTRL - S" reflex whenever I have some form of editor open.
Re:Winpopup (2001) by thawkth on Thursday June 27, 2024 @09:53AM (#40810555)
I think they're right about the interface itself, and agree with you wholeheartedly about the technical problems of the time. NT was a massive leap forward and it amazes me how long it existed before Microsoft could merge the consumer and business spaces in XP.

That said, something to be said for truly feeling in control of your own computer and not worrying at all about what it's doing behind your back (or what might change without you knowing in the next update!)

Re:Winpopup (2001) by runjake on Thursday June 27, 2024 @09:54AM (#40810564)
They were referring to the simplicity of the GUI. Not the OS architecture.

Windows NT 4 had memory protection and this GUI, if that helps frame it in your mind.

Re:Winpopup (2001) by xanderlewis on Thursday June 27, 2024 @09:44AM (#40810444)
But… skeuomorphism and crispy lines of pixels! And cute sound effects.
Re:Winpopup (2001) by CalRobert on Thursday June 27, 2024 @09:49AM (#40810508)
You could use it with only a local account though.
Re:Winpopup (2001) by theandrewbailey on Thursday June 27, 2024 @11:14AM (#40811443)
Oh no! What will I do without my cloud account, telemetry, and ads?
Re:Winpopup (2001) by CalRobert on Thursday June 27, 2024 @01:40PM (#40813014)
General purpose computing, you miscreant!
Re:Winpopup (2001) by hulitu on Thursday June 27, 2024 @09:53AM (#40810557)
And after 30 years Windows 10 and 11 has only limited file protection so any ransomware can be fatal. I guess we are evolving.