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Re:Pyongyang Says It Will Send Troops to Ukraine Within a Month by wkat4242 on Wednesday June 26, 2024 @06:18PM (#40805219)
It's pretty common knowledge that the north koreans are educated to believe that America is an evil empire out to eradicate them and that their leaders are basically god on earth. Similar to the pre-war Japanese indoctrination model. Called Juche. The ideology was purposely designed to keep the population under control.

If that's not brainwashing I don't know what is.

Also, North Koreans have no access to internet or non-state-sanctioned information. If the border ever opens that will be a huge problem I bet.

Re:Pyongyang Says It Will Send Troops to Ukraine Within a Month by kelipso on Wednesday June 26, 2024 @08:01PM (#40805922)
Pretty true except for the god part, no? America did kill some 10% of their civilians (in addition to their troops) and flatten the entire country, and now sanction the country and call it evil etc.
Re:Pyongyang Says It Will Send Troops to Ukraine Within a Month by nozzlegear on Wednesday June 26, 2024 @09:30PM (#40806411)
> Pretty true except for the god part, no?

No. America is not an evil empire trying to eradicate North Korea. At most, America wants to defend one of its closest allies, South Korea, from its belligerent dictator-led neighbor to the north.

> America did kill some 10% of their civilians (in addition to their troops) and flatten the entire country

That was over 70 years ago now, it does not reflect any sort of modern American foreign policy and hasn’t for decades.

> and now sanction the country and call it evil etc.

This is unfortunately inevitable when the country is led by a dictator who rattles his saber, continuously threatens to develop and unleash nuclear weapons on South Korea and Japan, and overall acts as bellicose and belligerent as possible.

Re:Pyongyang Says It Will Send Troops to Ukraine Within a Month by kelipso on Thursday June 27, 2024 @09:58AM (#40810614)
If a country decimated your population, razed your entire country, and is conducting economic warfare on you while undermining you politically, you would consider that country evil. They can make up all the justifications they want but there's no question you would still view that country as evil.
Re:Pyongyang Says It Will Send Troops to Ukraine Within a Month by nozzlegear on Thursday June 27, 2024 @11:21AM (#40811516)
That's fair from the perspective of a North Korean citizen; I agree that it makes sense for them to see the US as an evil country. But you and I aren't North Korean citizens, so we have the advantage of a broader perspective. We know why the US sanctions and undermines North Korea.
Re:Pyongyang Says It Will Send Troops to Ukraine Within a Month by kelipso on Thursday June 27, 2024 @01:52PM (#40813133)
Yeah, my point being calling it brainwashing is a huge stretch. It's just the natural worldview that will develop from all these factors.
Re:Pyongyang Says It Will Send Troops to Ukraine Within a Month by nozzlegear on Thursday June 27, 2024 @04:58PM (#40815018)
I gotcha, I mistakenly thought you were arguing a different position. Sorry for being quarrelsome.
Re:Pyongyang Says It Will Send Troops to Ukraine Within a Month by verygoodnotbad on Wednesday June 26, 2024 @11:40PM (#40806952)
> It's pretty common knowledge that the north koreans are educated to believe that America is an evil empire out to eradicate them and that their leaders are basically god on earth. Similar to the pre-war Japanese indoctrination model. Called Juche. The ideology was purposely designed to keep the population under control.

I think you are taking this "knowledge" at face value too much. The reality of the situation could be that most people don't give a shit and just go along with the local village leaders, who often don't give a shit either. As long as they get to drink some alcohol every weekend who cares.

> north koreans are educated

It's a big assumption to assume that North Korean mass education works that well. If they can't even get everybody to read normal books, how would they get everybody to believe crazy shit about America to the point that most people would actually sacrifice their life.

> If that's not brainwashing I don't know what is.

I agree with you though. The government of North Korea aims to brainwash their citizens, to have a world-view where they prioritize the goals of the government over other things, but it's probably not as effective as people think.

> America is an evil empire

This is objectively not true. I don't know much about the world, but I am confident that America is better than the others. That is the mindset I keep as a good citizen.