Waymo One is now open to everyone in San Francisco

Re:Waymo One is now open to everyone in San Francisco by Eisenstein on Tuesday June 25, 2024 @11:00PM (#40796006)

I don't know what 'deeply understanding tech' has to do with any of that. Plenty of people who 'deeply understand tech' get drunk and puke in places. Honestly, you sound like a Victorian-era petty lord looking down his nose at 'commoners'.

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Re:Waymo One is now open to everyone in San Francisco by dventimi on Tuesday June 25, 2024 @11:32PM (#40796138)

Bingo

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Re:Waymo One is now open to everyone in San Francisco by fragmede on Wednesday June 26, 2024 @12:06AM (#40796276)

and you said it wasn't a loaded question. That was intellectually dishonest of you.

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Re:Waymo One is now open to everyone in San Francisco by dventimi on Wednesday June 26, 2024 @01:28AM (#40796701)

I don't think you understand what "loaded question" means.

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Re:Waymo One is now open to everyone in San Francisco by fragmede on Wednesday June 26, 2024 @05:24AM (#40798067)

A loaded question is a trick question, which presupposes at least one unverified assumption that the person being questioned is likely to disagree with.

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Re:Waymo One is now open to everyone in San Francisco by dventimi on Wednesday June 26, 2024 @06:00AM (#40798253)

Can you quote my question back to me and point out the presumption that the person is likely to disagree with?

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Re:Waymo One is now open to everyone in San Francisco by dventimi on Wednesday June 26, 2024 @11:49AM (#40801365)

I'll take that as a "no".

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Re:Waymo One is now open to everyone in San Francisco by fragmede on Wednesday June 26, 2024 @06:56PM (#40805506)

Take it however you want. You know what you're doing and it's intellectually dishonest.

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Re:Waymo One is now open to everyone in San Francisco by dventimi on Thursday June 27, 2024 @12:30AM (#40807229)

You said that already.

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Re:Waymo One is now open to everyone in San Francisco by groby_b on Wednesday June 26, 2024 @03:39PM (#40803761)

You read the part where I said the understanding constrains the existing user base from antisocial behavior, right?

This isn't about "commoners". It's that any large group of people contains assholes, assholes restrain themselves depending on circumstances, and the new users might well lack that understanding.

It's fundamentally not about "commoners", but about a knowledge-based restraint falling away. (As for the "commoners", you might also want to read the last part of my comment, instead of outraging)

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Re:Waymo One is now open to everyone in San Francisco by Eisenstein on Wednesday June 26, 2024 @04:39PM (#40804358)

The fact that a critique by someone else of what they think you sound like makes you accuse them of 'outrage' is exactly why you sound like a snob.

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Re:Waymo One is now open to everyone in San Francisco by groby_b on Wednesday June 26, 2024 @08:25PM (#40806071)

If that person had done me the courtesy of actually reading, I wouldn't object.

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Re:Waymo One is now open to everyone in San Francisco by Eisenstein on Wednesday June 26, 2024 @10:00PM (#40806535)

That person did read it, and the fact that you believe anything you wrote in the entire comment would not contribute to the notion that your are a classist snob is hilarious.

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