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Re:Apple found in breach of EU competition rules by circuit10 on Monday June 24, 2024 @07:31PM (#40782328)
To be clear I don’t think this is an acceptable practice, but the concept wouldn’t be completely unfamiliar because Nintendo did this with the NES and their lockout chip/seal of quality system
Re:Apple found in breach of EU competition rules by noapologies on Monday June 24, 2024 @08:39PM (#40782925)
I agree. Though to be fair Nintendo's NES is a gaming console (not that they are right, just contrasting the use-cases).

Consider Apple's very own Mac - another general-purpose computing device like the iPhone, only in a different form-factor.

Surely Mac developers must be tripping over themselves to throw 30% of their total revenue at Apple, as reward for their laser focus on privacy and security and for developing a nanny-platform that makes their users feel warm and fuzzy inside?

Surely Mac users must not be allowed to do business with literally any entity in the world without involving Apple as the gatekeeper?

Oh wait.

Re:Apple found in breach of EU competition rules by nox101 on Tuesday June 25, 2024 @12:02AM (#40784354)
The differences are scale and utility. A company that has control of such a large market gets different rules because of the power they weld. Apple's market is 1-2 billion people and affects 100,000+ companies. Nintendo's market is 2-3 orders of magnitude less and the number of companies affected is similarly much much smaller.
Re:Apple found in breach of EU competition rules by account42 on Tuesday June 25, 2024 @07:41AM (#40787248)
Plus a gaming console is for entertainment only while a smarphone is becoming almost a requirement for participation in modern society.
Re:Apple found in breach of EU competition rules by wang_li on Tuesday June 25, 2024 @11:38AM (#40789941)
>Apple's market is 1-2 billion people and affects 100,000+ companies.

It's a bit disingenuous to use customer base and the number of people who develop for the platform as a excuse to bring legal action against the company. Customers know what they were getting when they bought the phones and companies knew the rules when they chose to develop for the platform.

Re:Apple found in breach of EU competition rules by tech_ken on Tuesday June 25, 2024 @12:28PM (#40790483)
Is it? If there’s an effective duopoly on the entire market is that truly choice?
Re:Apple found in breach of EU competition rules by apple314159 on Wednesday June 26, 2024 @12:24PM (#40801685)
I don't think users are fully aware of the extent these platforms control the devices. The same thing happened with cigarettes; eventually, the government required a warning. Perhaps a similar approach is necessary here.
Re:Apple found in breach of EU competition rules by circuit10 on Wednesday June 26, 2024 @09:57AM (#40800133)
I still think if you own a device you should be able to run whatever software you want on it, even if it's a game console from a somewhat smaller (but still huge) company
Re:Apple found in breach of EU competition rules by fennecfoxy on Wednesday June 26, 2024 @05:15AM (#40798003)
I don't agree with it for games consoles as well, but a NES back then is completely different to a phone these days.

Everybody uses a phone, for everything now.