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Re:Show HN: I am using AI to drop hats outside my window ont... by maxlin on Monday June 24, 2024 @09:31AM (#40775846)
Most parties serve alcoholic drinks. Alcohol is a common reason for sudden and early deaths. Do you go around saying that in every party you attend?
Re:Show HN: I am using AI to drop hats outside my window ont... by CleanRoomClub on Monday June 24, 2024 @10:11AM (#40776275)
I think it’s more akin to telling someone at the party that it’d be stupid to chug that whole bottle of liquor on a dare.
Re:Show HN: I am using AI to drop hats outside my window ont... by addicted on Monday June 24, 2024 @11:59AM (#40777660)
Drinking alcohol is almost certainly more dangerous than dropping hats.

This is not even close.

Heck, pick any one negative impact of drinking alcohol at parties (impaired driving, or long term health effects, or impaired judgment, etc) and that individual impact would probably be orders of magnitude worse than the total negative impact of dropping hats.

Re:Show HN: I am using AI to drop hats outside my window ont... by abirch on Monday June 24, 2024 @12:48PM (#40778248)
If someone spikes the punch with alcohol that's bad. If everyone is consenting: drop away. If they don't consent please leave them alone.
Re:Show HN: I am using AI to drop hats outside my window ont... by solsane on Monday June 24, 2024 @10:37AM (#40776589)
It is a hat. Chugging a bottle of liquor has way more harm potential.
Re:Show HN: I am using AI to drop hats outside my window ont... by Retric on Monday June 24, 2024 @10:49AM (#40776738)
Only if you’re focused on the individual instead of risk to unrelated 3rd parties.
Re:Show HN: I am using AI to drop hats outside my window ont... by alex_lav on Monday June 24, 2024 @02:52PM (#40779410)
Yes, think of how dangerous it is to have a hat land nearby…
Re:Show HN: I am using AI to drop hats outside my window ont... by Retric on Monday June 24, 2024 @03:57PM (#40779995)
You mean how dangerous is tossing something vision blocking where people drive…
Re:Show HN: I am using AI to drop hats outside my window ont... by alex_lav on Monday June 24, 2024 @04:17PM (#40780219)
Yes, how dangerous is it? Please enlighten me.
Re:Show HN: I am using AI to drop hats outside my window ont... by Retric on Monday June 24, 2024 @04:40PM (#40780477)
> Yes, how dangerous is it?

Lethality dangerous

Re:Show HN: I am using AI to drop hats outside my window ont... by alex_lav on Monday June 24, 2024 @09:53PM (#40783469)
No, define how dangerous it is please. I’d like to know the odds of dying from a hat falling from the sky.

If we’re going to call something dangerous, we should probably have actual logic and data to support that claim, right?

Re:Show HN: I am using AI to drop hats outside my window ont... by Retric on Monday June 24, 2024 @11:11PM (#40784015)
> actual logic and data to support that claim, right?

As you seem to be massively misinformed:

> Distracted driving is dangerous, claiming 3,308 lives in 2022

> What Is Distracted Driving?

> anything that takes your attention away from the task of safe driving.

https://www.nhtsa.gov/risky-driving/distracted-driving

Now obviously having a hat land on a windshield and actually block visibility would be worse, but catching something falling out of the edge of your vision especially something odd like a falling hat would easily qualify.

It’s also distracting pedestrians and so likely to result in other injuries.

Re:Show HN: I am using AI to drop hats outside my window ont... by alex_lav on Monday June 24, 2024 @11:19PM (#40784081)
> As you seem to be massively misinformed:

I am not "massively misinformed". I'm asking a person making a ridiculous claim (a hat falling from the sky will kill you) to support their claim.

I'm seeing no mention of hats in your linked information. Please share hat related injuries, as that's what we're discussing.

Re:Show HN: I am using AI to drop hats outside my window ont... by Retric on Monday June 24, 2024 @11:25PM (#40784127)
The claim is distracting drivers can result in deaths, it has little specific to hats. Rather it’s about the dropping.

“Several properties of visual stimuli have been shown to capture attention, one of which is the onset of motion.“

https://link.springer.com/article/10.3758/s13414-018-1548-1

> I am not "massively misinformed"

Your ignorant response proves otherwise.

Re:Show HN: I am using AI to drop hats outside my window ont... by alex_lav on Tuesday June 25, 2024 @01:10AM (#40784716)
So, you're an expert in hat related deaths? I fail to see how rattling off irrelevant statistics makes you "informed". Still not a single reference to hat related deaths, the topic of our debate!
Re:Show HN: I am using AI to drop hats outside my window ont... by Retric on Tuesday June 25, 2024 @07:25AM (#40787106)
> I fail to see

Clearly you don’t want to see, but you lost the argument anyway.

Some basic advice, if you don’t want to come off as a fool try actually responding to an agreement as presented. You may still lose, but at least it doesn’t look like you’re hiding.

Re:Show HN: I am using AI to drop hats outside my window ont... by alex_lav on Tuesday June 25, 2024 @01:42PM (#40791297)
I’m not hiding from anything! You presented an argument (a hat falling from the sky will kill you) and then have been spouting irrelevant nonsense!

I suspect that, if the notion of a hat falling 20 feet out of a window terrifies you this much, you’ve probably not engaged much with real people or the world around you, such that I wouldn’t really have expected anything different. Glad I was not wrong!

Re:Show HN: I am using AI to drop hats outside my window ont... by Retric on Tuesday June 25, 2024 @02:26PM (#40791823)
> a hat falling from the sky will kill you

Yet, again demonstrating you didn’t understand even the title of the article. As you clearly failed to read there in an ‘s’ at the end of “hats” at the top of the article. In this context that s means repeated hat drops.

Summing up for a simple mind. Research shows falling hats distract people. Article showing intersection means drivers would get distracted. Research showed distracting drivers risks killing someone else.

So with multiple events each risking killing someone taking place risk gasp increases.

PS: It’s also illegal, but that’s a secondary concern.

Re:Show HN: I am using AI to drop hats outside my window ont... by alex_lav on Wednesday June 26, 2024 @12:05AM (#40796272)
> Yet, again demonstrating you didn’t understand even the title of the article. As you clearly failed to read there in an ‘s’ at the end of “hats” at the top of the article. In this context that s means repeated hat drops.

_Some_ hats? gasp. The horror!

Go outside.

Re:Show HN: I am using AI to drop hats outside my window ont... by Retric on Wednesday June 26, 2024 @07:56AM (#40798920)
At least you acknowledged your loss in the end.
Re:Show HN: I am using AI to drop hats outside my window ont... by maxlin on Thursday June 27, 2024 @05:52PM (#40815556)
It's been mentioned here earlier but considering you don't seem to really go outside you're the poster child for the stereotypical person anyone wouldn't ask for advice about the actual danger of falling hats in this context.

You're so lost in the forced fake universe and viciously defending it digging even a deeper hole for yourself I wonder if you even remember how to walk.

Let's say 0.001% of distracted driving accidents are caused by falling hats. That's way less than one death a year. Now, DUI deaths don't just dwarf that but make it seem nonexistent which it basically is. If you stretch this to the extreme you could consider heavy snowfall to falling hats, but hundreds of hats falling around you all the time to the point they reduce your vision greatly. But even at that point alcohol is more dangerous. And at this point you linking some paper will just make you seem more deranged considering the kind of leaps you're making to try to stretch some academic reference to this theoretical question.

Please go outside.

Re:Show HN: I am using AI to drop hats outside my window ont... by badRNG on Monday June 24, 2024 @10:33AM (#40776543)
Is dropping a hat really comparable to chugging a whole bottle of liquor?
Re:Show HN: I am using AI to drop hats outside my window ont... by jncfhnb on Monday June 24, 2024 @10:33AM (#40776545)
Do you go around qualifying every point with a hyperbolic example to show that it doesn’t generalize at every party that you attend?
Re:Show HN: I am using AI to drop hats outside my window ont... by HPMOR on Monday June 24, 2024 @10:05AM (#40776215)
Yes, you don’t?