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Re:Singapore doubles down on lab-grown meat as Silicon Valle... by contingencies on Sunday June 23, 2024 @03:43PM (#40770050)
Sure but most people aren't in to resistance training. They're in to high fructose corn syrup, processed foods, and sedentary lifestyles. I wondered which product generates higher returns: protein powders or statins? Actually according to Google the former is USD$28B and the latter is only USD$20B at the moment. I'd expect the latter to grow and the former to shrink.
Re:Singapore doubles down on lab-grown meat as Silicon Valle... by AlexandrB on Sunday June 23, 2024 @04:40PM (#40770436)
Not just statins but diet drugs like wegovy. I suspect that people's addiction to corn syrup will be solved medically, not with willpower or lifestyle changes.

Side note: "in to" should be one word - "into".

Re:Singapore doubles down on lab-grown meat as Silicon Valle... by jfengel on Sunday June 23, 2024 @05:13PM (#40770618)
I fear that people will eat less corn syrup but only because they're eating less overall. I'd love to see people put the money they save into higher quality food, but history suggests otherwise.

The corn syrup based foods are cheap, tasty, and really easy to eat. It's too bad they have no nutrients besides calories.

Re:Singapore doubles down on lab-grown meat as Silicon Valle... by sundvor on Sunday June 23, 2024 @07:13PM (#40771426)
Fear? Corn syrup will easily lead to early death through obesity. Any reduction would clearly be a positive.
Re:Singapore doubles down on lab-grown meat as Silicon Valle... by bboygravity on Sunday June 23, 2024 @05:01PM (#40770559)
The corn syrup thing is a US-only thing, isn't it?

The rest of the world seems to use sugar from beets/sugar cane/coconuts?

Correct me if I'm wrong, I base the above statements on a rant by an American coworker about how the corn lobby managed to somehow force American food producers to exclusively use relatively high calory corn syrup as a sweetener as opposed to much lower calory sweeteners.

Re:Singapore doubles down on lab-grown meat as Silicon Valle... by ToucanLoucan on Sunday June 23, 2024 @05:08PM (#40770593)
The short version is it's because of steep subsidies on corn as a crop. We have tons of the shit, and artificially cheap at that. It goes into foods as itself, foods as corn syrup, corn flour, and a substantial amount is converted to ethanol for fuel.
Re:Singapore doubles down on lab-grown meat as Silicon Valle... by Dalewyn on Sunday June 23, 2024 @05:26PM (#40770699)
>The corn syrup thing is a US-only thing, isn't it?

No, corn syrup is used in food and drinks all over the world.

Personally, I have nothing against corn syrup so long as the sweetness actually tastes nice and appropriate for what I'm consuming.

Corn syrup is also a lot better than artificial sweeteners which all taste like hot garbage and make me literally ill.

Re:Singapore doubles down on lab-grown meat as Silicon Valle... by peterashford on Sunday June 23, 2024 @07:31PM (#40771510)
The United States accounts for approximately 55 percent of the global consumption of high-fructose corn syrup.

https://www.statista.com/statistics/495946/consumption-share...

Re:Singapore doubles down on lab-grown meat as Silicon Valle... by Dalewyn on Sunday June 23, 2024 @09:27PM (#40772033)
So what about the remaining 45%?
Re:Singapore doubles down on lab-grown meat as Silicon Valle... by sangnoir on Monday June 24, 2024 @12:31AM (#40772676)
What's the consumption rate for RoW - per capita - compared to the US?
Re:Singapore doubles down on lab-grown meat as Silicon Valle... by Dalewyn on Monday June 24, 2024 @12:49AM (#40772721)
Does it matter? So long as that (or any non-US) number is larger than zero the argument that "corn syrup is US-only" is patently false.
Re:Singapore doubles down on lab-grown meat as Silicon Valle... by bboygravity on Tuesday June 25, 2024 @03:23AM (#40785486)
What I meant was "putting corn syrup in most food as the preferred sweetener" is a US-only thing, not "only the US uses corn syrup".
Re:Singapore doubles down on lab-grown meat as Silicon Valle... by gmerc on Monday June 24, 2024 @02:06AM (#40772982)
Mexico. Ok, just joking, they like real coke without HFCS
Re:Singapore doubles down on lab-grown meat as Silicon Valle... by nradov on Sunday June 23, 2024 @05:21PM (#40770663)
Corn syrup is kind of a bogeyman in some circles because it contains a slightly higher fraction of fructose than sugar produced from beets or sugar cane. There might be a little something to that as fructose is metabolized through a different pathway than glucose and there is some correlation at the country level between consumption and diabetes rates. But with sugar it's really more the quantity that matters rather than the composition.

https://doi.org/10.1080/17441692.2012.736257

Re:Singapore doubles down on lab-grown meat as Silicon Valle... by fbdab103 on Sunday June 23, 2024 @05:48PM (#40770870)
Were you attempting to post a different link? That study points a pretty strong negative correlation with corn syrup.

  ...Diabetes prevalence was 20% higher in countries with higher availability of HFCS compared to countries with low availability, and these differences were retained or strengthened after adjusting for country-level estimates of body mass index (BMI), population and gross domestic product (adjusted diabetes prevalence=8.0 vs. 6.7%, p=0.03; fasting plasma glucose=5.34 vs. 5.22 mmol/L, p=0.03) despite similarities in obesity and total sugar and calorie availability. These results suggest that countries with higher availability of HFCS have a higher prevalence of type 2 diabetes independent of obesity.
Re:Singapore doubles down on lab-grown meat as Silicon Valle... by sundvor on Sunday June 23, 2024 @07:21PM (#40771457)
Being someone who moved to Australia, I'm so glad HFCS (High Fructose Corn Syrup) is almost nowhere to be found here.
Re:Singapore doubles down on lab-grown meat as Silicon Valle... by Avshalom on Sunday June 23, 2024 @05:43PM (#40770828)
It actually contains less fructose than cane sugar, it just has more fructose than normal corn
Re:Singapore doubles down on lab-grown meat as Silicon Valle... by bsder on Sunday June 23, 2024 @05:52PM (#40770899)
> They're in to high fructose corn syrup, processed foods, and sedentary lifestyles.

The problem is that US government subsidies for corn and soy have created an entire class of products that are cheaper than any alternatives.

If we removed those subsidies, there would be far less incentive for companies to use them.