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Re:My Windows Computer Just Doesn't Feel Like Mine Anymore by pndy on Saturday June 22, 2024 @05:36AM (#40757670)
> All this fuzzy language

That's not the exclusive problem to Microsoft - it happens all around us within the IT world. The corporations stopped acknowledging the permanent "No" anymore and the actual user choice. It's a plain harassment up until you give up and agree to what you get shoveled with.

Whenever I read comments regarding last two Windows versions and issues people had or have with these, or news about newest Microsoft "ideas" - I ask myself, where the hell are regulators?

Re:My Windows Computer Just Doesn't Feel Like Mine Anymore by franga2000 on Saturday June 22, 2024 @07:48AM (#40758325)
> where the hell are regulators?

We have killed them. If a government tries to do anything against a company that isn't a perfect 1:1 mapping to an explicit thing in the law that they are breaking, the company will sue back and win. And if they try to pass such a law, the biggest companies are powerful enough to get rid of them next term, so they don't even try.

Re:My Windows Computer Just Doesn't Feel Like Mine Anymore by 0dayz on Saturday June 22, 2024 @07:31AM (#40758220)
You get what you vote for.

If you want less government interference then less regulatory power will exist.

Re:My Windows Computer Just Doesn't Feel Like Mine Anymore by BiteCode_dev on Saturday June 22, 2024 @07:39AM (#40758276)
They are in Europe, and heavily criticized on HN everytime they regulate.

I love GDPR, yet so many complain about it for cookie banners, which are not even what the law requires: There Is No Cookie Banner Law (https://www.bitecode.dev/p/there-is-no-eu-cookie-banner-law)

Re:My Windows Computer Just Doesn't Feel Like Mine Anymore by Numerlor on Saturday June 22, 2024 @07:48AM (#40758326)
Reading through this thread as an user of Windows from the EU most of the issues I see mentioned here are just non-existent, like OneDrive nagging that has never happened to me
Re:My Windows Computer Just Doesn't Feel Like Mine Anymore by pauby on Saturday June 22, 2024 @08:05AM (#40758456)
> just non-existent

You have just been lucky. Nothing more.

A classic case of it doesn't happen on _my computer_ so it must be a lie.

Re:My Windows Computer Just Doesn't Feel Like Mine Anymore by Numerlor on Saturday June 22, 2024 @08:41AM (#40758716)
I have been lucky on multiple installs on multiple computers? I'm not saying what people are complaining about are lies, I'm saying the issues don't seem to exist in EU installs on Windows. For example the only ads I've seen were during the initial setup screen and pre-installed apps/shortcuts that are gone in a minute of work, and OneDrive can be uninstalled in two clicks.

The only issue that is still here would be bing in start search but that's trivial to disable compared to the configurations I had to do on my linux desktops, so while it is bad and shouldn't be a thing I don't see it as a big issue when comparing to linux.

Re:My Windows Computer Just Doesn't Feel Like Mine Anymore by janice1999 on Saturday June 22, 2024 @08:42AM (#40758718)
Windows is literally different in the EU and the rest of the world.

https://blogs.microsoft.com/eupolicy/2024/03/07/microsoft-dm...

Re:My Windows Computer Just Doesn't Feel Like Mine Anymore by rsanek on Saturday June 22, 2024 @08:38AM (#40758692)
did cookie banners exist without the law? largely not, which is why people perceive it to be a "cookie banner law" no matter what is technically written in it.
Re:My Windows Computer Just Doesn't Feel Like Mine Anymore by BiteCode_dev on Saturday June 22, 2024 @08:56AM (#40758804)
Sure, you can also blame condoms for increasing the safety of people cheating on their spouses.
Re:My Windows Computer Just Doesn't Feel Like Mine Anymore by awiesenhofer on Saturday June 22, 2024 @02:00PM (#40760851)
> did cookie banners exist without the law?

Yes!? They existed long before GDPR was even passed.

Re:My Windows Computer Just Doesn't Feel Like Mine Anymore by noprocrasted on Saturday June 22, 2024 @09:30AM (#40759016)
Only problem with GDPR is that while the spirit/intention of the law is great (and it even prohibits malicious compliance such as consent prompts that make it more difficult to decline than accept), enforcement is significantly lacking which means it's still more profitable to breach it than respect it.
Re:My Windows Computer Just Doesn't Feel Like Mine Anymore by BiteCode_dev on Saturday June 22, 2024 @12:12PM (#40760069)
I would say the problem is rather that companies are becoming too big to cares. Meta has been fined several times, in total for more than 2 billions. Amazon ? 746 millions. Tik tok? 345 millions. And yet it's a small price to pay for them
Re:My Windows Computer Just Doesn't Feel Like Mine Anymore by pndy on Saturday June 22, 2024 @04:22PM (#40761876)
Author says what I'm repeating since day one when GDPR and these so-called banner with "preferences" were introduced: this should be handled by the browsers.

The idea was good but the interpretation and implementation of this law failed - the banners, cookies aren't as permanent and universal as browser sending the header.

Re:My Windows Computer Just Doesn't Feel Like Mine Anymore by shakes_mcjunkie on Saturday June 22, 2024 @09:49AM (#40759142)
Happens to me all the time with Google because I'm choosing not to pay for their backup. They constantly bother me about almost running out of space, even with a modal that requires you to use a toggle to dismiss it without accepting. It's gross.