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Re:Gilead Shot Prevents All HIV Cases in Trial of African Women by Dylan16807 on Friday June 21, 2024 @02:56AM (#40746910)
Ridiculous. As long as most people are taking no preventatives, it is not "extremely unethical" to have the control group also take no preventatives.
Re:Gilead Shot Prevents All HIV Cases in Trial of African Women by kjhcvkek77 on Friday June 21, 2024 @07:07AM (#40748265)
Who would sign up for your study? The diligent person already on truvada - would they risk getting placebo? No. Or the person too careless to take truvada? Would they go to the trouble of participating in a study for a 50% chance of protection? No.
Re:Gilead Shot Prevents All HIV Cases in Trial of African Women by Dylan16807 on Friday June 21, 2024 @08:50AM (#40749068)
That's an entirely different question from ethics.

But paying people to be studied tends to be effective.

Re:Gilead Shot Prevents All HIV Cases in Trial of African Women by kjhcvkek77 on Friday June 21, 2024 @10:05AM (#40749777)
I don't think so. Managing the relationships with the public and study participants is an important part of the ethics.
Re:Gilead Shot Prevents All HIV Cases in Trial of African Women by Dylan16807 on Friday June 21, 2024 @03:10PM (#40752648)
Ethics and managing relationships with the public overlap.

But I don't think the particular aspect of "making sure you have enough participants" interacts very much with ethics. Especially when the failure state in question is an honest failure to attract them.

Re:Gilead Shot Prevents All HIV Cases in Trial of African Women by landryraccoon on Monday June 24, 2024 @01:41PM (#40778756)
I think it would unethical if the participants in the study were asked not to take any other antivirals.

In that case, someone at high risk for HIV infection could be prevented from getting treatment because of the study protocol. The ethical solution, which the authors of the study chose, was to provide the highest standard of care as the placebo - in this case it was Truvada.

Since the treatment was actually even more effective than the existing standard of care, it was a home run success. Their conclusion is even stronger than it would be if they used a non pharmaceutical placebo, so in retrospect their decision was clearly correct.