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Re:EU Council has withdrawn the vote on Chat Control by sofixa on Thursday June 20, 2024 @08:31AM (#40737978)
> The EU is a behemoth that absolutely steamrolls smaller countries into submission

Yet curiously Hungary has been allowed to steep down into authoritarianism, and none of Orban's excesses like media or judicial overreaches have been been overiden through submission.

Re:EU Council has withdrawn the vote on Chat Control by dtx1 on Thursday June 20, 2024 @08:34AM (#40738012)
> That sounds fine for the people of Hungary whom he represents. What should he do, roll over and take it from Germany? The EU is a behemoth that absolutely steamrolls smaller countries into submission. But the squeaky wheel gets greased.

What a uneducated, populistic and stupid take. Just a litle basic statistics about net contributors vs net benificiaries: https://www.statista.com/chart/18794/net-contributors-to-eu-...

Gemany pays shitloads of money into the EU so that places like hungary can benefit. If they feel that's being "steamrolled" into accepting things like the contracts they fucking signed they can fuck back off into irrelevance. As a German tax payer i'd appreciate that very much.

Re:EU Council has withdrawn the vote on Chat Control by etx on Thursday June 20, 2024 @08:50AM (#40738162)
Shhh.... keep cool.

As a German tax payer too, i appreciate very much that Orban does not roll over and take blackmailing* from Brussels regarding the migration crisis and what Hungary will allow regarding its remaining sovereignty.

* "Hungary has been ordered to pay a €200m (£169m) fine for its refusal to uphold the rights of asylum seekers"

Germany as well as other countries should be thankful that Hungary actually built border protections, something you will never see from established centrist parties and bureaucrats.

PS: Money, Power(, Football) - will always be of interest, be it for the Commies or the Righties. Corruption on both sides, it is just a human thing.

Re:EU Council has withdrawn the vote on Chat Control by dtx1 on Thursday June 20, 2024 @08:58AM (#40738252)
Yeah another uneducated take from a new account who'd thought. Hungary is paying thos fines because they currently, actively and willingly violate human right laws.[1] Not because they "build border protections". Even if you want a significantly more strict immigration and asylum law, human rights must be protected.

But that's always the trick of the fascists, First violate the rights of the undesired so you can get people used to it, then violate the rights of the rest.

[1]https://www.euronews.com/my-europe/2024/06/13/ecj-fines-hung...

Re:EU Council has withdrawn the vote on Chat Control by account42 on Thursday June 20, 2024 @11:17AM (#40739691)
There is no violation of human rights mentioned on your linked page. Economically-motivated migration is not a human right.
Re:EU Council has withdrawn the vote on Chat Control by no_time on Thursday June 20, 2024 @10:09AM (#40738979)
> Even if you want a significantly more strict immigration and asylum law, human rights must be protected.

Says who? As a Hungarian I never voted for these “human rights” that allows third worlders to waltz through our borders and into our backyards.

If they don’t like being detained at the border they can pound sand and go back to where they came from. We never invited them and they went through several safe countries to get here.

I wonder how much migration would it take for the overwhelming majority to realize that these “ideals” are utterly ridiculous and go against the very idea of statehood. 10 million economic migrants? 50mil? maybe a hundred?

Re:EU Council has withdrawn the vote on Chat Control by _zoltan_ on Thursday June 20, 2024 @02:32PM (#40741714)
you shouldn't drink the coolaid this hard.