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Re:Are animals conscious? How new research is changing minds by wruza on Tuesday June 18, 2024 @07:10PM (#40723059)
I don't feel good without meat, and good substitutes are less available.

But my main point (which I started to write above but seemingly decided to omit, to my own confusion) is that this fear-cold-hunger-devour-alive-die-young bs is how wild nature works every day for eons. I am its creature and should see no guilt except for true sadism.

I agree with regulating bad farms away, but suffering through reduction of my already small demand to zero barely helps anything.

Re:Are animals conscious? How new research is changing minds by lukan on Wednesday June 19, 2024 @05:26AM (#40726485)
Yes, little animal babies get happily eaten by predators every day.

But they did not put them in cold metal boxes before to rot in their own shit.