Re:How Innovative Is China in Nuclear Power?
by cubefox on Monday June 17, 2024 @01:16PM
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Total power consumption went down due to industry moving out of the country due to increasing electricity cost due the country exiting nuclear power. It's depressing.
Re:How Innovative Is China in Nuclear Power?
by imtringued on Monday June 17, 2024 @08:08PM
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What's depressing is how wrong your comment is. You seemingly ignored the Ukrainian war which has lead to sanctioning Russia and the end of cheap Russian oil and gas in Germany. Spot electricity prices are at pre-war levels nowadays, so whatever lack of nuclear power you are imagining is seemingly irrelevant.
Re:How Innovative Is China in Nuclear Power?
by cubefox on Monday June 17, 2024 @08:16PM
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Demand for electricity went down due to increasing deindustrialization, which leads to a lower price than it otherwise would be.
Re:How Innovative Is China in Nuclear Power?
by jiggawatts on Tuesday June 18, 2024 @03:09AM
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German machinery exports are growing, not shrinking: https://www.georesources.net/cms.php/en/news/755/Germany-Mac...
There was a dip due to COVID, and it doesn't help matters that their biggest customer is China, which locked down their population for nearly a year during the pandemic.
Sure, China makes widgets, but Germany makes the robots that make the widgets.
Re:How Innovative Is China in Nuclear Power?
by cubefox on Wednesday June 19, 2024 @07:03AM
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"Machinery exports" growing doesn't mean industry isn't moving out of the country.
Re:How Innovative Is China in Nuclear Power?
by chickenbig on Monday June 17, 2024 @04:07PM
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So the link shows in 2001 nuclear generated 482.92 TWh; in 2022 wind plus solar generated 485.12 TWh. Granted coal was down in that time but gas was pretty much flat (except for 2022 when there were extenuating circumstances).
Re:How Innovative Is China in Nuclear Power?
by cinntaile on Monday June 17, 2024 @04:59PM
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The claim was that Germany has now become dependent on carbon based energy sources, the link I posted shows it has always been dependent on carbon based energy sources. The dependence hasn't changed all that much in the last 20 years, it went down a bit but not much.
Re:How Innovative Is China in Nuclear Power?
by cubefox on Monday June 17, 2024 @05:32PM
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It probably would have gone down if nuclear energy wasn't outlawed.
Re:How Innovative Is China in Nuclear Power?
by cinntaile on Wednesday June 19, 2024 @04:25PM
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It did go down, just not much. Would it have gone down more if nuclear was still on the table? Yes, that's very likely.
Re:How Innovative Is China in Nuclear Power?
by imtringued on Monday June 17, 2024 @08:13PM
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That is primary energy. Only one third of that can actually be turned into electricity.
Re:How Innovative Is China in Nuclear Power?
by chickenbig on Tuesday June 18, 2024 @02:21AM
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Yes, I realised that while having trouble getting to sleep last night. France produces around 350-400TWh from nuclear, so that should have made me question the number I quoted.
So the graph is a bit misleading in that various qualities of energy are lumped together.
As you can see the data does not support this claim of yours. https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/energy-consumption-by-sou...