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Re:FTC sues Adobe for hiding fees and inhibiting cancellations by freitzkriesler2 on Monday June 17, 2024 @01:00PM (#40707994)
I have a full paid license of acrobat pro. I want to pay for the 2020 version as that's the last one before it became rental software crap. I refuse to pay monthly for this software.

That and office, give me the full one time license. Im not paying for cloud crap.

Re:FTC sues Adobe for hiding fees and inhibiting cancellations by tombert on Monday June 17, 2024 @01:35PM (#40708475)
Genuine question; what does Acrobat Pro buy you over the free versions and/or OSS competitors?

I uses Apple Preview a lot because it lets me edit and sign documents pretty easily, and that came bundled with my Mac. What does the Acrobat Pro include that isn't in the free stuff?

Re:FTC sues Adobe for hiding fees and inhibiting cancellations by hedora on Monday June 17, 2024 @03:15PM (#40709839)
I’ve been wondering about this too.

In addition to signing documents with Preview, MacOS/Linux/Windows can all print to pdf / pdf/a, and the Notes app on iOS includes a camera-based document scanner that exports to OCR’ed PDF.

I’ve been making PDFs with LaTeX, for decades, but those other tools are more mainstream, and work fine. I can’t imagine why anyone would pay for acrobat these days.

Re:FTC sues Adobe for hiding fees and inhibiting cancellations by anigbrowl on Monday June 17, 2024 @03:33PM (#40710050)
One huge flaw of Apple Preview is that it doesn't handle PDF forms well, as I discovered when trying to print tax returns.
Re:FTC sues Adobe for hiding fees and inhibiting cancellations by tombert on Monday June 17, 2024 @03:54PM (#40710262)
Really? Me and my wife did her immigration paperwork a few years ago with Apple Preview (I think?) to edit the forms.

I'd be curious to hear what Preview messed up?

Re:FTC sues Adobe for hiding fees and inhibiting cancellations by anigbrowl on Monday June 17, 2024 @09:37PM (#40713225)
It looked fine on screen, but only printed the first 4-5 pages properly, then lots of stuff was missing on subsequent pages. After that I couldn't print at all and ended up having to remove/reinstall the printer in OS preferences. This was just a few months ago, OS up to date, unremarkable Canon printer.
Re:FTC sues Adobe for hiding fees and inhibiting cancellations by 8n4vidtmkvmk on Monday June 17, 2024 @07:17PM (#40712311)
None of the free apps I tried can fill out certain forms. The one built into Firefox is pretty good but still a little janky with some fields.
Re:FTC sues Adobe for hiding fees and inhibiting cancellations by hnick on Tuesday June 18, 2024 @12:36AM (#40714117)
I think the modern ones are all fine for the basic stuff like that.

For my work, it was the highly detailed low level stuff. Pre-flight checks/profiles, content tree (object level, including text fragment) browsing, flattening, converting, transforming versions, and so on. It was indispensable for some of those operations, working in a printing business where clients would sometimes send in their own problematic PDFs which we'd need to adjust or inspect to find the error.

(Favourite one: a font was embedded in a PDF that mapped a character using // in its name, which was "fine" on PDF, but on the printer's RIP was converted to postscript for one step, and // in postscript precedes an immediately evaluated name so it stopped parsing and tried to look for it and bombed out)

Re:FTC sues Adobe for hiding fees and inhibiting cancellations by freitzkriesler2 on Tuesday June 18, 2024 @09:43AM (#40717789)
There's advanced features that FOSS equivalents dont do quite as well.

I also wish Microsoft would pull its head out of its rear and make a preview clone for windows because that app basically supplants acrobat for basic use.

Re:FTC sues Adobe for hiding fees and inhibiting cancellations by lenerdenator on Monday June 17, 2024 @01:06PM (#40708061)
<sarcasm>Dear lord, did you stop to think of the shareholders before you wrote that screed?!</sarcasm>

SaaS is a virus that has drastically reduced the power of the individual creator for the benefit of people who really don't need more money. I wish there were a viable FLOSS alternative to more of Adobe's CS software.

Re:FTC sues Adobe for hiding fees and inhibiting cancellations by dartos on Monday June 17, 2024 @01:10PM (#40708113)
SaaS itself is fine. A lot of software has recurring costs for the saas company (think clarifai, chatgpt, or circleci)

Subscriptions for software that you run on your own machine is a little much tho.

Re:FTC sues Adobe for hiding fees and inhibiting cancellations by lenerdenator on Monday June 17, 2024 @01:13PM (#40708141)
The word for the activity occurring in your second sentence used to just be called "hosting".

The problem is that there are fewer and fewer pieces of software that aren't hosted somewhere.

Re:FTC sues Adobe for hiding fees and inhibiting cancellations by hi-v-rocknroll on Monday June 17, 2024 @01:19PM (#40708250)
Gotcha capitalism with a side of rent-seeking.

If indies need it, then sure, it can be necessary to sustain smaller shops that have to support backend/cloud features and multiple OSes that churn APIs faster than a newspaper.

Re:FTC sues Adobe for hiding fees and inhibiting cancellations by datavirtue on Tuesday June 18, 2024 @03:57PM (#40721592)
Isn't the shareholder us?
Re:FTC sues Adobe for hiding fees and inhibiting cancellations by asnyder on Monday June 17, 2024 @01:12PM (#40708132)
I recommend a one-time Fox-it PDF pro purchase. While they too are getting into subscriptions they still make a one-time purchase available.

Haven't found any significant deficiencies, nice tool overall.

Re:FTC sues Adobe for hiding fees and inhibiting cancellations by downrightmike on Monday June 17, 2024 @01:49PM (#40708696)
The only problem is that ADobe is making the adobe engine incompatible with older versions. I've had PDFs that were made less than 10 years ago indesign etc that refused to load in Edge, which is where we work.