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Re:Voyager 1 is back online! NASA spacecraft returns data fr... by serf on Saturday June 15, 2024 @07:35AM (#40689098)
>scientific return

that comes after 'someone out there' misinterprets our super fast gram probes as weaponry and conquers our world for the sake of their own spacecraft safety.

it's ingenious really, let's antagonize a greater power into wormhole-bridge hopping over here so we can reverse engineer their tech.

/s , hopefully.

Re:Voyager 1 is back online! NASA spacecraft returns data fr... by lolc on Saturday June 15, 2024 @08:22AM (#40689324)
If they are so much as inconvenienced by our probes, they are not a greater power but bumbling roboticists like us.
Re:Voyager 1 is back online! NASA spacecraft returns data fr... by withinboredom on Saturday June 15, 2024 @11:00AM (#40690221)
1 gram at an appreciable amount of c is about as much energy as a nuke. Getting hit by a swarm of these while on a Sunday drive would fuck you up, no matter how powerful you are.

The real reason there isn’t a moon colony? Person gets fired and loses their shit, starts tossing 1-2 km sized rocks down the gravity well and … we all die.

Throwing shit in space is a sure fire way to piss off any species.

Re:Voyager 1 is back online! NASA spacecraft returns data fr... by kadoban on Saturday June 15, 2024 @11:36AM (#40690406)
It would take an insane amount of energy to throw that rock.
Re:Voyager 1 is back online! NASA spacecraft returns data fr... by withinboredom on Saturday June 15, 2024 @12:04PM (#40690597)
But you only need one. Maybe two for good measure
Re:Voyager 1 is back online! NASA spacecraft returns data fr... by kadoban on Saturday June 15, 2024 @10:02PM (#40694156)
Same with a nuke or an engineered pathogen. Throwing rocks from the Moon is less practical though, people would see you setting up the universe's biggest launch pad or railgun for years. It would be the least stealthy, most telegraphed apocalypse possible.
Re:Voyager 1 is back online! NASA spacecraft returns data fr... by withinboredom on Monday June 17, 2024 @02:56AM (#40702944)
It only takes a 50-meter (radius) rock to destroy a city, a 240-meter rock to destroy an entire region, and a 4 km rock to destroy the planet.

So, I guess it depends on what you want to accomplish, whether they see it coming or not.

Re:Voyager 1 is back online! NASA spacecraft returns data fr... by kadoban on Tuesday June 18, 2024 @12:25AM (#40714065)
"Only". Those are huge! Especially when you consider the city you have to build around them to launch the damn things.
Re:Voyager 1 is back online! NASA spacecraft returns data fr... by withinboredom on Tuesday June 18, 2024 @03:46AM (#40715129)
The required delta-v isn't all that much from the moon, and it's more about the mass and speed than the actual shape of the rock.
Re:Voyager 1 is back online! NASA spacecraft returns data fr... by withinboredom on Monday June 17, 2024 @02:57AM (#40702952)
To throw a 100 meter rock that would wipe out NY city (and then some), we could do that with modern technology... assuming the rocket never had to slow down.