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Re:The sun's magnetic field is about to flip by contravariant on Friday June 14, 2024 @04:02PM (#40684506)
You want something to make it easier to find the sun?

Anyway the sun's magnetic fields is ridiculously weak on earth.

Re:The sun's magnetic field is about to flip by dredmorbius on Friday June 14, 2024 @04:12PM (#40684611)
Well, one always has to consider the first manned expedition to the Sun and how they'll navigate.

Telling time of day would be the first problem as it's always high noon. And star sightings might prove challenging, at least at optical frequencies.

(Am now thinking of an SF story set on the Sun in which navigation and timekeeping play critical roles....)

Re:The sun's magnetic field is about to flip by lukan on Friday June 14, 2024 @04:59PM (#40685063)
In that SF story, I would be far more interested in the tech, that allows human life (or anything we bring) to withstand that slightly bigger problem called heat and radiation.
Re:The sun's magnetic field is about to flip by dredmorbius on Friday June 14, 2024 @05:05PM (#40685125)
Pshaw! Trifling details.

(Focusing on the non-obvious problems might make for a more interesting and/or fantastical story.)

Re:The sun's magnetic field is about to flip by lukan on Friday June 14, 2024 @05:12PM (#40685186)
Ah, a energy force field it is then.
Re:The sun's magnetic field is about to flip by WJW on Friday June 14, 2024 @06:00PM (#40685540)
Old reliable.
Re:The sun's magnetic field is about to flip by dredmorbius on Friday June 14, 2024 @06:11PM (#40685637)
Turtles all the way down.

Teenage, mutant, ninja, or otherwise.

Re:The sun's magnetic field is about to flip by AbstractH24 on Saturday June 15, 2024 @08:58AM (#40689514)
Hello darkness my old friend
Re:The sun's magnetic field is about to flip by dredmorbius on Monday June 17, 2024 @07:33PM (#40712449)
Which suggests the development of the Simon-Garfunkel Shield.
Re:The sun's magnetic field is about to flip by wtetzner on Friday June 14, 2024 @05:33PM (#40685355)
And gravity.
Re:The sun's magnetic field is about to flip by dredmorbius on Friday June 14, 2024 @06:11PM (#40685636)
I'm playing with slight variations of this prompt on GPTs:

"Write a short (300--600 word) story about how human explorers on the Sun would address the challenges of navigation, orientation, and timekeeping (including the challenges of starfinding). Ignore obvious effects such as heat, gravity, and radiation."

Results are ... not excellent literature, but amusing all the same.

Re:The sun's magnetic field is about to flip by drbacon on Friday June 14, 2024 @06:42PM (#40685838)
> Telling time of day would be the first problem as it's always high noon.

If the sun is always directly down from the surface, doesn't that make it solar midnight from anywhere on the surface?

Re:The sun's magnetic field is about to flip by dredmorbius on Friday June 14, 2024 @06:43PM (#40685850)
A fair argument.
Re:The sun's magnetic field is about to flip by deepsun on Friday June 14, 2024 @04:24PM (#40684722)
Why, yes. It's really hard to find sun in fog, which is frequent at sea. And you really want it's location to be precise for navigation.
Re:The sun's magnetic field is about to flip by gmiller123456 on Friday June 14, 2024 @05:09PM (#40685160)
The Vikings supposedly had a "sunstone" (cordierite crystal) that could help find the Sun through clouds or fog. I did buy a piece and wasn't able to get any good results, but my life didn't depend on it.
Re:The sun's magnetic field is about to flip by vizzier on Friday June 14, 2024 @05:20PM (#40685252)
By what mechanism was this intended to work? Any known fields would surely have stronger local effects outside of direct sunlight...
Re:The sun's magnetic field is about to flip by addaon on Friday June 14, 2024 @05:25PM (#40685299)
It’s a polarizing filter. The atmosphere polarizes sunlight based on the angle the light enters. You can find the position of the sun above the horizon as the point where light is least horizontally polarized (a horizontal filter has the least difference between brightness through the filter and around it), and potentially find the position of the sun itself by the highest rate of change of polarization angle. This works remarkably well even on overcast days β€” try it with polarized sunglasses.
Re:The sun's magnetic field is about to flip by dekhn on Friday June 14, 2024 @05:25PM (#40685300)
Re:The sun's magnetic field is about to flip by Aspos on Friday June 14, 2024 @07:53PM (#40686296)
I am thinking of a Sun compass a signal of which could be used in space. Can this signal be fused into IMU? I wonder if it makes any sense.