Re:Apple Intelligence for iPhone, iPad, and Mac
by gigel82 on Monday June 10, 2024 @03:07PM
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The problem is they don't explicitly define when 1 can pass to 2 and whether we can fully and categorically disable it. As far as I know, 1 can pass to 2 when governments ask for some personal data or when Apple's ad model needs some intimate details for personalization.
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Re:Apple Intelligence for iPhone, iPad, and Mac
by Tagbert on Monday June 10, 2024 @03:18PM
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The information provided for level two is end to end encrypted and not stored so the risk level is pretty low here.
Re:Apple Intelligence for iPhone, iPad, and Mac
by coolspot on Monday June 10, 2024 @03:26PM
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Ent-to-end encrypted means that the other end (Apple/NSA) has access to it.
Re:Apple Intelligence for iPhone, iPad, and Mac
by Tagbert on Monday June 10, 2024 @04:10PM
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It does need to process the data. The server has no persistent storage and no remote shell. It is a limited and locked down special-purpose iOS.
Re:Apple Intelligence for iPhone, iPad, and Mac
by gigel82 on Monday June 10, 2024 @09:15PM
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Maybe, maybe not. I would like to purchase one of those servers and put it in my rack, so I can monitor all network traffic. Is that an option?
Re:Apple Intelligence for iPhone, iPad, and Mac
by cyberpunk on Monday June 10, 2024 @05:20PM
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Imagine the memory on their server is encrypted with an on-processor key (something like intel SGX) -- reading OS memory, e.g dumping from linux or hardware, you can't read it unless you somehow extract the key (which are different on each chip) from the physical chip. Now, the process running using that encrypted memory generates TLS keys for you to send the data, and operates on it only inside this secure enclave.
There is no way to access it without destroying the chip, and even in this scenario it will be extremely expensive and imo unlikely, certainly impossible at scale. Some scientists may be able to do it once in a lab.
Re:Apple Intelligence for iPhone, iPad, and Mac
by cyberpunk on Monday June 10, 2024 @05:30PM
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BTW there is an entire industry popping up around exactly this sort of use case, it's called 'confidential computing' and CNCF have some software in the works (confidential containers iirc). I'm pretty excited to see what risc-v is going to bring to the party enclave wise.
Re:Apple Intelligence for iPhone, iPad, and Mac
by davidcbc on Monday June 10, 2024 @06:25PM
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Ok, I'm imagining.
Now, is any of that actually true?