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Re:Boeing Starliner launches first crewed mission by toss1 on Thursday June 06, 2024 @01:57PM (#40600406)
OK, that tells me that the Tesla seems better than the Mercedes.

It does NOT tell me that either have achieved anything near the stated standard: "for practical purposes it is self-driving."

I don't think anyone promotes (or any reasonable person understands) L2 as self driving. SAE defines L2 assist [0] as "You ARE driving... you must constantly supervise and support these features ... lane centering and adaptive cruise control at the same time".

"Self driving" implies to me and everyone I know as "the car drives itself". As in I can safely sleep in the back seat as if another human were driving, or I could ask the car to come or go to a destination, as I could ask another human to drive my car to/from a destination.

Can you provide an example of ANY car doing this yet?

[0] https://www.sae.org/blog/sae-j3016-update

Re:Boeing Starliner launches first crewed mission by throwAGIway on Friday June 07, 2024 @02:45AM (#40605944)
It's called Drive Pilot.