Re:You'll regret using natural keys
by vsuperpower2020 on Wednesday June 05, 2024 @12:14PM
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I don't care what they want. A lot of people are tired of playing these language games.
Re:You'll regret using natural keys
by bigstrat2003 on Wednesday June 05, 2024 @01:47PM
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Also, "do what people want" is fine for your interactions with an individual. But it's not a viable general rule for language, where we need one single approach. I think saying gypsy unless someone personally tells you they would rather you don't call them a gypsy is perfectly reasonable.
Re:You'll regret using natural keys
by coooolbear on Wednesday June 05, 2024 @09:29PM
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Everybody, in fact, takes innumerable social parameters into consideration when you say anything, especially with strangers.
For the sake of mass communication where you can’t really know your receiver, you have to do your best to just communicate whatever you need to (i.e. ‘a single approach’). Choosing to use a word that is ambiguous as to whether it is a slur is a bit unwise. I think it is probably unwise to do the same in personal interactions.
Re:You'll regret using natural keys
by coooolbear on Wednesday June 05, 2024 @09:20PM
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Then “a lot of people” (lol) shouldn’t complain when they piss someone off when someone already warned them
Re:You'll regret using natural keys
by isaacremuant on Thursday June 06, 2024 @01:47PM
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What you're saying very well seems like a threat. A threat of violence for speech.
That attitude defaults to better at violence in a particular context gets to impose their will. Or whoever has the security forces to back them out of an inferiority situation.
You miss the part when I can arbitrarily warn you about a lot of things myself and then use any interpretation of rule breaking on your part to attack you.
I know it may sound harsh but this is where many end up going so let's make it explicit.
Re:You'll regret using natural keys
by isaacremuant on Thursday June 06, 2024 @01:49PM
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Your first paragraph missed the point. Your second is how you deal with it. I've just told you I had a different experience. Your experience doesn't supersede mine. Your "be careful" (or else) doesn't sit well with people who don't like to be threatened.
Better to be careful and let any individuals or communities tell you what they want. I have Roma connections in my family and at one point the word we’d use is ‘gypsy’. But, because I’m not Roma myself, if I came across some other group I wouldn’t assume I’m just allowed to say it to them.