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Re:How to make a great government website by sgu999 on Tuesday June 04, 2024 @03:33AM (#40571660)
How to not make great government websites: use random domain names instead of a single dedicated tld, different contractors and design for each, make sure there's enough overlap in functionality in-between each of them, and then regularly remind everyone that it's very easy to scam you with fishing attacks.

Here are just some of the official French websites: service-public.fr impots.gouv.fr gouvernement.fr ameli.fr vie-publique.fr info.gouv.fr santepubliquefrance.fr

Re:How to make a great government website by g15jv2dp on Tuesday June 04, 2024 @04:16AM (#40571952)
That's a very unfair take. The examples you list are of a completely different nature.

> gouvernement.fr info.gouv.fr

These are the same website. gouvernement.fr is a legacy URL that redirects to info.gouv.fr. Why did you include both?

> ameli.fr

As I'm sure you know, in France, social security is not administered by the government directly but by the social partners. They're in charge of managing ameli.fr, not the government. Go there, you won't find any logo from any ministry. Why did you include it? With this and the previous example, I cannot shake the feeling that you're on a mission to denigrate with little regard to the facts.

> vie-publique.fr santepubliquefrance.fr

These websites are basically blogs about respectively the institutions of the republic and about public health.

> service-public.fr

General informational website. For most sensitive procedures, you're redirected to a .gouv.fr website. Yes, it could have had a .gouv.fr URL, that's true.

> impots.gouv.fr

Yep, that's the tax website. You can notice it's official thanks to gouv.fr, like all website where you do actual online procedures.

Re:How to make a great government website by darkamaul on Tuesday June 04, 2024 @04:27AM (#40572010)
And then, the French governement has released an official and mandatory Systeme de Design [0], to have an unique visual identity across all official websites.

[0] https://www.systeme-de-design.gouv.fr/

Re:How to make a great government website by sgu999 on Tuesday June 04, 2024 @09:04AM (#40574169)
> Why did you include both?

I was making a non-exhaustive list of the ones that came through my mind.

> As I'm sure you know, in France, social security is not administered by the government directly but by the social partners.

What matters is whether that's an entity of the state or of a third party that is potentially trying to scam you.

I could have included pole-emploi.fr, oh sorry, I mean, francetravail.fr in my list.

All of the above plus the ones of the sibling comments under a single .etat.fr, .admin.fr, .public.fr, .france or whatever would only make sense. None of us would have to double-check again whether the information we're getting or form we're filling is official or not.

Re:How to make a great government website by Kiala on Tuesday June 04, 2024 @04:43AM (#40572110)
Yeah, the Netherlands got 1,800 of those..
Re:How to make a great government website by Tmpod on Tuesday June 04, 2024 @08:47AM (#40573970)
Yeah here in Portugal we have a ton of those too. Each municipality has its own cm-<name>.pt domain, but there some exceptions. For example, Lisbon's domain redirects to lisboa.pt, and while no other major city I know does this, almost all of them have separate website and domain without the cm- part.
Re:How to make a great government website by jpmoral on Tuesday June 04, 2024 @05:36AM (#40572454)
How about the totally not-dodgy-sounding ustraveldocs dot com?
Re:How to make a great government website by cnity on Tuesday June 04, 2024 @05:53AM (#40572541)
It says "Official U.S. Department of State Visa Appointment Service" right there at the top. It even has the US flag emoji so it is clearly legit.
Re:How to make a great government website by cs02rm0 on Tuesday June 04, 2024 @06:06AM (#40572625)
Clearly. :)
Re:How to make a great government website by g15jv2dp on Tuesday June 04, 2024 @06:24AM (#40572719)
Let's not forget payusatax dot com and all the other IRS "partners" that you somehow need to go through.
Re:How to make a great government website by beryilma on Tuesday June 04, 2024 @06:02PM (#40579410)
Also freetaxusa.com; a legit and almost free tax filing service, which is much less evil than TurboTax and Intuit.
Re:How to make a great government website by fleischhauf on Tuesday June 04, 2024 @09:33AM (#40574469)
it also looks dodgy to be honest. Also if you click too much while logged in they detect "suspicious behaviour" and block you from logging in again for a couple of days without warning, saying don't call customer service, they won't help you (very frustrating if you are short on time). They also have the option of maestro for payment (was decommissioned years ago in Europe) and don't accept real credit cards, only debit apparently.
Re:How to make a great government website by ropejumper on Tuesday June 04, 2024 @07:33AM (#40573271)
And of course, you never know where to look for information, and sometimes it's replicated to other official websites with differences.

Let's not forget the weird decision they made with the ac- domains, too. Instead of having all of them under one domain, they just use a naming convention: ac-nice.fr and ac-aix-marseille.fr are both official. It should've been nice.academie.fr and aix-marseille.academie.fr, imo.

Re:How to make a great government website by AlienRobot on Tuesday June 04, 2024 @10:37AM (#40575097)
When making a blog for your small town, don't forget to use Wordpress so it gets full of malware!