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Re:I'm forking Ladybird and stepping down as SerenityOS BDFL by skeaker on Monday June 03, 2024 @07:20PM (#40568871)
It isn't. I can without any sarcasm disable all of that in about a minute or two, and for the most part see no reason to do so in the first place (the worst bit is probably sponsored links on new tabs but that's also the easiest to remove). Acting like this invalidates the existence of the whole browser is what makes no sense to me.

Also Windows configuration is terrible.

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Re:I'm forking Ladybird and stepping down as SerenityOS BDFL by lukan on Tuesday June 04, 2024 @12:41PM (#40576394)
"Acting like this invalidates the existence of the whole browser is what makes no sense to me."

They market themself as standing for the open and free web and digital rights and privacy and what not. And then have the browser spying on every user by default with integrated ads.

So sure, you and me deactivate it, but a common person who just fell for the marketing and who does not even know what "telemetry" is, will have it enabled. The only reason I use their browser is, because there is no alternative - yet.

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Re:I'm forking Ladybird and stepping down as SerenityOS BDFL by skeaker on Tuesday June 04, 2024 @05:02PM (#40578897)
Transparent telemetry is not spying. I'll agree that the ads are annoying but they're about as unobtrusive as you can make them. This is not the catastrophe you believe it to be, and even if it were, the big scary evil worse-than-Google Mozilla allows forks and Librewolf exists.
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Re:I'm forking Ladybird and stepping down as SerenityOS BDFL by lukan on Tuesday June 04, 2024 @05:57PM (#40579366)
"Transparent telemetry is not spying. "

It is not transparent, if the information is hidden in the settings under a unclear name.

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Re:I'm forking Ladybird and stepping down as SerenityOS BDFL by skeaker on Tuesday June 04, 2024 @06:40PM (#40579685)
Its usage and the data it collects are not malicious or done to track you. "Data collection" is arguably a clearer name than telemetry to the average user and is clearly labelled, and can be disabled in a single checkbox in settings. It is transparent.
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Re:I'm forking Ladybird and stepping down as SerenityOS BDFL by lukan on Wednesday June 05, 2024 @02:16AM (#40581873)
"Its usage and the data it collects are not malicious or done to track you."

There is tracking also for ad purposes activated by default in firefox. A recent developement. Before the tracking was ocasionally and hidden under "studies". Firefox in its default settings spies on its users and sells this data to advertisers - that is the situation.

On the frontpage FF is advertised as privacy friendly and there is 0 indication that FF itself will also track you.

If that is transparent to you, than we can just agree to disagree.

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