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Re:How do our brains adapt to control an extra body part? by smokel on Sunday June 02, 2024 @03:55AM (#40552273)
I once saw a documentary on a haptic compass, built from some rumble packs. It allowed people to improve their way-finding skills, and if I recall correctly, people accustomed to the idea of having this extra sense after about a week or so.

I can’t easily find the original research (somewhere in the 1990s), but several hackers and artists have rebuilt or rediscovered the idea.

See for example https://blinry.org/compass-belt/

Re:How do our brains adapt to control an extra body part? by saulrh on Sunday June 02, 2024 @04:29AM (#40552472)
Re:How do our brains adapt to control an extra body part? by benvan on Sunday June 02, 2024 @04:52AM (#40552569)
This was a particular passion project of mine a while back. I tried building a haptic compass that could be worn on the wrist and discovered that that the actual haptics mattered a lot. Vibration didn't work at all for me (I couldn't internalise the feeling - however much the intensity modulated it just felt like buzzing) but ended up using a kind of trick of directional "tick" lines to represent proximity to North - which felt almost instantly familiar.

I never finished the project, but love this idea!

https://youtu.be/7UaAwTuahWo?si=YFBq1trurHq0P7i-

Re:How do our brains adapt to control an extra body part? by slazaro on Sunday June 02, 2024 @05:58AM (#40552849)
That's so cool! I can imagine it kind of feels like when you have a wheel that you can turn with your fingers and it kind of "snaps" into place at regular intervals, like your body rotation is snapping into a cardinal direction.

Have you thought about trying something similar using Android? Taking the compass and doing small short vibration blips, you can also pair them with sound and light for testing or reinforcing it. Although I can imagine that the compass is not very accurate and the vibration control on Android is probably all over the place in terms of consistency between devices. But being able to have it as something compact that you probably already carry around could make it real-life useful.

I can imagine it being an assistance when it's in your pocket and it passively keeps feeding you the blips, you could use the proximity detection to make it only do that when in your pocket, for instance.

Re:How do our brains adapt to control an extra body part? by jcul on Sunday June 02, 2024 @10:35AM (#40554523)
Reminds me of when people used to get magnet implants in their fingers so they could sense electric fields.
Re:How do our brains adapt to control an extra body part? by coretx on Sunday June 02, 2024 @05:19PM (#40557274)
People are still doing this and although results may vary significantly from person to person, there is actually utility to it. One friend of mine was saved from electric shock during his work on multiple occasions, thanks to his extra sense. Bioproofed neodymium implants can even be sourced from shady Chinese vendors at a very low price, indicating a certain level of demand. The only hurdle is finding someone willing to operate on you; some tattoo shop backroom is often a solution...
Re:How do our brains adapt to control an extra body part? by thro1 on Tuesday June 04, 2024 @08:24AM (#40573759)
I don't think that present resolution would be good enough for me ;) - I wish an option with small matrix of tiniest, more sensitive magnets, maybe of varying (resonance) sizes ?

As a touch sense extension it seems intuitive to adapt - but feeling it more like a sound or colors, less as vibration then.. ?

What about inducted solution - like a matrix of nanocoils calibrated to/messing with nearby neurons electrical levels to provide super precise feedback - or to feel it maybe like different keys being focused to press by mm movements ? ( reverse keyboard ?? )

Re:How do our brains adapt to control an extra body part? by wruza on Sunday June 02, 2024 @11:28AM (#40554922)
I vaguely remember one of them being sad after the experiment ended, since it felt like they lost one of their natural senses. Slight ethical concerns were raised, afair.
Re:How do our brains adapt to control an extra body part? by DenisM on Sunday June 02, 2024 @05:09PM (#40557221)
Would be cool to build one into a baseball hat.

Or even put an array of car parking proximity sensors into that hat. https://www.kit.edu/kit/english/pi_2016_003_feeling-spaces-w...