News for hackers. Stuff that matters.
Re:Centuries of milk marketing warped the way we think about... by reducesuffering on Friday May 31, 2024 @04:55PM (#40540137)
Ya, and with things like oat milk, most don't even realize they're consuming a cup of processed seed oil (imagine ranch/mayo) in that carton.

> massively important staple of advanced societies for thousands of years, and continues to be in places like rural India, Turkey, Central Asia, and more.

I also find it interesting how well milk consumption correlates with increased height.[0] All the tallest countries (Montenegro, Netherlands, Sweden) have the highest milk consumption levels. Everyone using protein powder to bulk up for fitness is using milk-based whey protein. We know that malnutrition affects height. Is there any other food or activity that correlates with height as much as milk consumption?

[0] https://www.researchgate.net/figure/Correlation-between-aver...

Re:Centuries of milk marketing warped the way we think about... by kelipso on Friday May 31, 2024 @05:16PM (#40540346)
Around 30% by calories of seed oil in many oat milks. Was so surprised when I discovered this. It's in the ingredients list but they never even hint at this anywhere else.
Re:Centuries of milk marketing warped the way we think about... by mirror_neuron on Friday May 31, 2024 @06:07PM (#40540819)
Count me among those that didn’t realize how much seed oil is used. But is that bad? I don’t have an axe to grind against cow’s milk, but I do have trouble digesting it (and besides, I like the way oat milk tastes).

Do I need to be worried about the fact that there’s a lot of seed oil in it?

Re:Centuries of milk marketing warped the way we think about... by reducesuffering on Friday May 31, 2024 @06:42PM (#40541094)
Nutrition science is anything but conclusive, however there is some preliminary research indicating seed oils may not be healthy and contribute to obesity. Why are condiments like ranch and mayonnaise unhealthy? Because they're almost entirely seed oils.

There is oat milk without any added oils, including Oatly, but you have to specifically look for that version, they're not always easy to find. And it will taste thinner without any fatty component that cows milk has.

Re:Centuries of milk marketing warped the way we think about... by hooverd on Friday May 31, 2024 @06:15PM (#40540888)
Depends on who you ask. Maybe seed oil is the devil and should only be eating beef and butter for health.
Re:Centuries of milk marketing warped the way we think about... by blargey on Friday May 31, 2024 @09:40PM (#40542142)
"Seed oil" is a broad category, but the most popular (cheap) seed oils would also fall under "ultraprocessed foods".

Canola oil in particular is ever-present in the US, and unlike other refined plant oils, requires the ultraprocessing to be considered fit for human consumption (you'll never see extra-virgin canola oil on a grocery shelf). Debates about its safety aside, I don't feel the need to give it the benefit of the doubt when I could just eat something that doesn't contain it, and that something would likely be healthier for many other reasons.

Re:Centuries of milk marketing warped the way we think about... by 01HNNWZ0MV43FF on Saturday June 01, 2024 @10:39AM (#40546109)
I drank lots of cow milk as a kid and wound up short because both my parents are short. I'm not too worried about it
Re:Centuries of milk marketing warped the way we think about... by dzonga on Saturday June 01, 2024 @01:46PM (#40547687)
this is what western idealists pretending to be journalists or scientists miss.

those of us who grew up in 3rd world countries know -- how much kids grow by drinking milk. and how much when the economy or agriculture goes to shit -- then milk production falls, how much kids tend to be shorter and frail.

and yeah it could be milk or milk related products. soy, oat etc that shit ain't milk. compare the nutrional values.