Re:A Devil's Bargain with OpenAI
by hashxyz on Wednesday May 29, 2024 @11:00PM
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I wonder if there's another reason for Sam brokering deals with lots of major news outlet. Surely OpenAI won't try to exert any type of editorial control over these publications. That would be absurd!
Re:A Devil's Bargain with OpenAI
by bergen on Thursday May 30, 2024 @12:29AM
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Pretty sure they had something in the contract that OpenAI can train on their data, so it is an afterwards legitimation of something already performed (allegedly)
Re:A Devil's Bargain with OpenAI
by Animats on Wednesday May 29, 2024 @11:31PM
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Maybe OpenAI should buy news inlets, like the Associated Press, instead of news outlets. OpenAI needs the news collection part, but the distribution part is dead weight.
Re:A Devil's Bargain with OpenAI
by zer00eyz on Wednesday May 29, 2024 @10:15PM
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A search engine, that returns answers, and cites sources.
You're seeing the tech peak, there is no AGI coming.... we didn't feed it all the works of humanity and have some great problem solving overlord emerge.
Better search.
Sam Altman, leather jacket, motor cycle, tank of sharks.
Re:A Devil's Bargain with OpenAI
by doesnt_know on Wednesday May 29, 2024 @11:30PM
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It's not even a good search engine. I was constantly asking for sources, so I figured I would just add it to the "Customize ChatGPT" to always include the source when possible.
Giving instructions to a model seems to be a monkey's paw simulator. Yeah ok, it always gives me a little section down the bottom with sources now, but they are either unclickable "links" (they are stylized as links but aren't a hyperlink), a fabricated URL (the page doesn't exist and never did according to Internet Archive) or just completely nonsensical and have no relation to the material.
I've experienced all of these today using ChatGPT 4o.
Re:A Devil's Bargain with OpenAI
by stareatgoats on Thursday May 30, 2024 @05:30AM
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Yeah, source URLs have always been hopeless to get out of ChatGPT. I suspect not because it couldn't, but because they wouldn't: citing sources would open up for copyright infringement lawsuits. So it makes sense that source URLs can be available when quoting the Atlantic now: they have signed the deal and made the pact and can't come complaining.
Re:A Devil's Bargain with OpenAI
by wudangmonk on Wednesday May 29, 2024 @10:31PM
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The 'clear reason no to trust their output' the author uses as an argument against it, is the reason all want it. People know not to trust llms completely but right now these 'news' institutions are trusted too much when in reality they are mouth pieces to special interest or governments, they have no obligation to tell the truth either.
You're seeing the tech peak, there is no AGI coming.... we didn't feed it all the works of humanity and have some great problem solving overlord emerge.
Better search.
Sam Altman, leather jacket, motor cycle, tank of sharks.
Giving instructions to a model seems to be a monkey's paw simulator. Yeah ok, it always gives me a little section down the bottom with sources now, but they are either unclickable "links" (they are stylized as links but aren't a hyperlink), a fabricated URL (the page doesn't exist and never did according to Internet Archive) or just completely nonsensical and have no relation to the material.
I've experienced all of these today using ChatGPT 4o.
ChatGPT without web browsing skips the search part and ends up hallucinating URLs
Perplexity comes close to what I want, but having a superior product does not, unfortunately, guarantee that they will stay in business.
Perplexity even gives real time status information that it is first searching the web,