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Re:DBus and Systemd by Xeamek on Tuesday May 28, 2024 @04:04AM (#40498515)
It's also the case that there exist non-systemd based linuxes.

I mean sure, the self-start is important feature, but I'd rather have a dbus with which I need to start services manually, then have no dbus at all :(

Also, why the fuck can't systemd run in chroot.

Re:DBus and Systemd by nxobject on Tuesday May 28, 2024 @05:54AM (#40499076)
Because of that deep integration with systemd-boot, of course. /s

(Yes, I know systemd at this point is just an umbrella brand; I'm no systemd hater.)

Re:DBus and Systemd by mariusor on Tuesday May 28, 2024 @10:12AM (#40500934)
Probably because chroot does not expose some sort of low-level knob that systemd relies on to work. They had to make their own implementation of that in systemd-nspawn, have a look at that.
Re:DBus and Systemd by Xeamek on Tuesday May 28, 2024 @11:52AM (#40501993)
Yes, but to use systemd-nspawn, your host must be running systemd to begin with.