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Re:Teacher Did All He Could to Keep Kids Off Phones. He's Qu... by Zenzero on Monday May 27, 2024 @11:37PM (#40497100)
Teachers are no longer respected in their decisions by parents. Before, a teacher could take away a phone and the criticism came at the student for not paying attention. Now the teacher comes under criticism in protection of the student.

The whole culture around teaching needs a hard reset.

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Re:Teacher Did All He Could to Keep Kids Off Phones. He's Qu... by defrost on Monday May 27, 2024 @11:44PM (#40497130)
A hard reset back to the days when teachers could get away with anything and their word was believed over that of students?

eg: https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-05-27/historical-abuse-alle...

Perhaps not.

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Re:Teacher Did All He Could to Keep Kids Off Phones. He's Qu... by ThePowerOfFuet on Tuesday May 28, 2024 @01:19AM (#40497551)
That was a hell of a leap, and we both know that has absolutely nothing to do with what was being suggested by the person to whom you replied.
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Re:Teacher Did All He Could to Keep Kids Off Phones. He's Qu... by defrost on Tuesday May 28, 2024 @01:27AM (#40497587)
Hardly.

Sufficiently large schools will have at least one staff member doing something inappropriate with at least one student, there are literal Royal Commisions on that kind of thing.

Particular specific institutes of the past have gone further with large numbers of the staff abusing large numbers of the students.

There's a middle ground between always deferring to teachers as absolute authorities and not.

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Re:Teacher Did All He Could to Keep Kids Off Phones. He's Qu... by fractallyte on Tuesday May 28, 2024 @06:19AM (#40499190)
No, the parent poster was right: teachers are absolute authorities in matters of discipline on school grounds. Parents have a duty to support school discipline, and this is completely orthogonal to your point.
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Re:Teacher Did All He Could to Keep Kids Off Phones. He's Qu... by Zenzero on Tuesday May 28, 2024 @08:11AM (#40499898)
Nobody is advocating abuse. That is a major leap away from my point.

Taking a child's phone away is not abuse. It should be expected and desired by parents wanting their child to actually learn in school. Unfortunately we have normalized suspicion towards teachers to such a toxic level that they are now powerless to enforce a learning environment, and it has resulted in a mass exodus of talented people from teaching.

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