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Re:Ask HN: My CEO has been "stealing" money from the company... by greenyoda on Monday May 27, 2024 @07:24PM (#40495764)
To get reliable legal advice, you should be asking a lawyer, not random people on HN.
Re:Ask HN: My CEO has been "stealing" money from the company... by gnicholas on Monday May 27, 2024 @08:00PM (#40496000)
There are lawyers on HN, and to the extent they can help OP ask the right questions, it could help keep the legal costs down.
Re:Ask HN: My CEO has been "stealing" money from the company... by drewcoo on Monday May 27, 2024 @10:13PM (#40496735)
To lower legal costs, ask an Internet forum of randos, including possibly lawyers?

That's terrible advice.

Re:Ask HN: My CEO has been "stealing" money from the company... by Fire-Dragon-DoL on Tuesday May 28, 2024 @12:03AM (#40497211)
Given that alternative, which is leaving the money to the CEO, I agree with OP's approach.
Re:Ask HN: My CEO has been "stealing" money from the company... by gnicholas on Monday May 27, 2024 @10:21PM (#40496766)
It wouldn't be what I would do, but then again I'm a former lawyer with many friends who are lawyers. But if the best OP can do is get some preliminary advice from Hacker News, it's worth giving it a shot.

What would you suggest OP do instead of asking HN?

Re:Ask HN: My CEO has been "stealing" money from the company... by barkingcat on Monday May 27, 2024 @10:37PM (#40496844)
If you are a former lawyer, what would you advise OP to do?
Re:Ask HN: My CEO has been "stealing" money from the company... by ta2234234242 on Tuesday May 28, 2024 @12:09AM (#40497236)
If I were a former lawyer, I wouldn't give any advice other than general knowledge.

e.g.

"Could you sue on behalf of the shareholders of your CEO's embezzlement and win? Maybe? Should you? I don't know, I'm not your attorney, and I haven't studied any of your claims."

That's about as worthless as it gets.

Re:Ask HN: My CEO has been "stealing" money from the company... by gnicholas on Tuesday May 28, 2024 @12:26AM (#40497313)
It doesn't take a lawyer to know that a shareholder lawsuit to recover 13 weeks of pay is not going to make financial sense.
Re:Ask HN: My CEO has been "stealing" money from the company... by micecof on Tuesday May 28, 2024 @12:35PM (#40502586)
Our intention is not to recover the 13 weeks of pay, but we would rather let them keep it, and remove them from the company being that's the "pay out" they get for their shares.

Although, we are trying to understand if this could be considered as fraud so we can remove them with a legally solid reason, and confiscate their shares.

Re:Ask HN: My CEO has been "stealing" money from the company... by gnicholas on Tuesday May 28, 2024 @01:58PM (#40503532)
Sounds more like embezzlement than fraud, but a key question will be what powers the CEO that don't require shareholder votes. For example, if an employee came to him and asked for 2 weeks of pay advance due to some emergency, could he grant it unilaterally? Obviously it's different since there's a conflict of interest when he's doing it for himself, but it's still a relevant data point. Check your bylaws to see if this sort of thing is spelled out.
Re:Ask HN: My CEO has been "stealing" money from the company... by gnicholas on Tuesday May 28, 2024 @12:24AM (#40497304)
See my questions and comments below.