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Re:How Many EV Charging Stations Does the US Need to Replace... by Lio on Monday May 27, 2024 @03:49PM (#40494003)
You’re comparing the time to fuel a car at home vs a dedicated fuelling station.

You can’t (generally) refuel your ICE car at home. The times to recharge at a fast charge station is coming down and down.

Re:How Many EV Charging Stations Does the US Need to Replace... by rascul on Monday May 27, 2024 @04:02PM (#40494112)
> You can’t (generally) refuel your ICE car at home.

You potentially can, though. In many areas, laws/regulations/ordinances allow one to have a large tank and a pump. Bulk gasoline delivery can also cost less than what one would typically pay at the pump. I've rarely seen it done except at businesses with fleets of vehicles or large farms, though.

Re:How Many EV Charging Stations Does the US Need to Replace... by SideburnsOfDoom on Tuesday May 28, 2024 @08:05AM (#40499846)
Potentially true, but in practice much less useful than fitting one more high-power electric plug, to a garage.

A house will already have electricity, even high-power plugs for electric stoves and dryers. A house will not already have any gasoline taps. A gasoline storage tank is another avoidable source of fire and chemical contamination risk. The shelf life of gasoline is not indefinite, it is "about six months".

Both are upfront costs, but the average person won't put a gasoline storage tank in the same ballpark as a L2 EV plug.

Re:How Many EV Charging Stations Does the US Need to Replace... by rascul on Tuesday May 28, 2024 @08:47AM (#40500207)
It would be somewhat comparable to a heating oil tank, which many residences in the northern US already have.

Note that I'm not suggesting this be done, only that it's potentially possible, and in some rare cases is done.

Re:How Many EV Charging Stations Does the US Need to Replace... by toast0 on Monday May 27, 2024 @05:24PM (#40494875)
I refuel my ICEs at home all the time. I have many ICE tools, so I've got a pair of wonderful metal gas cans. I refuel the gas cans while I'm out, and then I can refuel tools and vehicles at home.

Capless tanks in cars are kind of a pain, but other than that it's easy. Storing filled gas cans isn't an option for everyone; usually the same people who will have trouble with a charger at home will have restrictions on gas cans. Regulatory devices to prevent spilling gas seem to ensure spilling gas too; it's better to use a 'for entertainment purposes only' flexible spout if you've got one.

Re:How Many EV Charging Stations Does the US Need to Replace... by throwaway4220 on Monday May 27, 2024 @05:52PM (#40495106)
Well unless you have an oil well and a full refinery in your backyard really it’s apples and oranges
Re:How Many EV Charging Stations Does the US Need to Replace... by brnt on Monday May 27, 2024 @11:45PM (#40497134)
And you have solar panels that can charge your car at night?
Re:How Many EV Charging Stations Does the US Need to Replace... by Lio on Tuesday May 28, 2024 @03:22AM (#40498261)
Why not? Home storage batteries are available.
Re:How Many EV Charging Stations Does the US Need to Replace... by brnt on Tuesday May 28, 2024 @03:34AM (#40498344)
Of the size of a car battery? Well, there go all your cost savings.
Re:How Many EV Charging Stations Does the US Need to Replace... by SideburnsOfDoom on Tuesday May 28, 2024 @07:57AM (#40499802)
It's very much possible to buy a solar + battery system that will charge your car at any hour of the day or night. Tesla even sell them. People do it.
Re:How Many EV Charging Stations Does the US Need to Replace... by throwaway4220 on Tuesday June 04, 2024 @03:33AM (#40571664)
Actually my power company is offering free night electricity albeit at a higher day rate. I think it’s unused wind power. They have similar offerings in Texas
Re:How Many EV Charging Stations Does the US Need to Replace... by js2 on Tuesday May 28, 2024 @01:05AM (#40497487)
I swapped out all my gas tools years ago for battery operated tools (mower, edger, blower, chainsaw) and I don't miss those gas tools at all. There is nothing wonderful about metal gas cans or about gasoline. I mean, I converted my generator to natural gas just so I don't have to deal with gasoline during the rare power outage.
Re:How Many EV Charging Stations Does the US Need to Replace... by Terr_ on Monday May 27, 2024 @09:22PM (#40496471)
How does that matter? Generally never have to "refuel at home" because you refueled by taking a small fast detour on a path you were driving anyway.
Re:How Many EV Charging Stations Does the US Need to Replace... by vel0city on Monday May 27, 2024 @10:34PM (#40496834)
I spend hours a year more doing those "small fast detour on a path you were driving anyways" rather than charging. And I do way more miles on my EV than my ICE.